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#101
07-29-2005, 08:45 PM
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Re: Greenstein - Good Article.
I'm not sure which has more skill:
In tournaments: you have to survive the blinds you can't wait around for the nuts you're playing more people you don't have a pattern on In cash games: you can wait for better cards you can re-buy so to speak As for money being the sign of better players I can't agree, this years WSOP winner has won more than most but I wouldn't put him up there with the best. Just because Barry plays higher stakes doesn't mean he would beat a good player who hasn't yet won the $500,000 to play in his cash game. Another problem with the cash game idea is that the top 5 he listed would be playing each other all the time, one has to be better than the rest and under Barry's comments that would mean the other [over the long term] go home losers. I'm just starting to get my teeth into poker and I'm trying to understand which path I want to follow - cash or tournaments. Anyone have any advice, links, book recommendations for cash games? If I had to make a choice I would say cash games make better players, tournaments have much more luck involved because of the blinds and as a newcomer I've placed in tournaments [a few actually] but got my arse handed to me in even the micro limit cash games... 
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#102
07-29-2005, 09:15 PM
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Re: Greenstein - Good Article.
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Another problem with the cash game idea is that the top 5 he listed would be playing each other all the time, one has to be better than the rest and under Barry's comments that would mean the other [over the long term] go home losers. [/ QUOTE ] No. There are rich amateurs who "supply" the money.
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#103
07-29-2005, 11:57 PM
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Re: Greenstein - Good Article.
as i recall...sometime around XMas Sklansky rated his top 10 smartest poker players or something like that over in the WPT forum (just for fun mostly).
Giang was near the top i believe (and Greenstein was in the top 10). Ciau Giang is considered to be one of the very best. He doesn't play as many tournaments as some others is my understanding. While in Vegas during the WSOP I played some 15/30 at the Bellagio with a direct view of the glass-room where they play the 'big game'. At different times in 2 nights there you could see Barry, Ciau, Gus Hansen and Johnny Chan. At least 2 or 3 of those guys were in the game almost every time I saw it (and they were typically 5 or 6 handed). Didn't see Doyle or Harmon or Chip in there but there was a LOT of poker still to be played at the Rio (as well as general fatigue from several weeks worth of tourneys).
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#104
07-30-2005, 01:35 AM
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Re: Greenstein - Good Article.
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It's obvious he's just sick of people getting all the attention that can't hang in the big game. He might as well get used to it, though, because tournement poker is much more media friendly. [/ QUOTE ] There's truth in what you've said. Now think about it about .... Adam
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#105
07-30-2005, 02:15 AM
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Re: Greenstein - Good Article.
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i think the bes tway to decide is to play a tournament. [/ QUOTE ] HAHAAHAHAAHAH. fim
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#106
08-03-2005, 07:29 AM
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Re: Greenstein - Good Article.
Out of curiousity, and because I haven't seen it mentioned in this thread... how big IS this "big game"? Limit? No-limit? Blinds?
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#107
08-03-2005, 05:33 PM
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Re: Greenstein - Good Article.
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Out of curiousity, and because I haven't seen it mentioned in this thread... how big IS this "big game"? Limit? No-limit? Blinds? [/ QUOTE ] I believe it's the limit $4000/$8000 game at the Bellagio. Adam
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#108
08-03-2005, 06:35 PM
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Re: Greenstein - Good Article.
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A tourney is shortterm" I don't think so. WSOP is a lot longer than an hour cash game. [/ QUOTE ] This and all your posts in this thread just make regular posters here wonder what to do : a)dont answer b)invent some joke about you c)tell some old joke about you d)make (futile) effort to make you realize that you are plainly wrong in everything you are saying here... Think about it. How many good players saying this you need to believe it ?
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#109
08-03-2005, 06:38 PM
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Re: Greenstein - Good Article.
I think its a mixed game where they throw in NL Hold 'em w/ a $150,000 cap. The limits are 4k/8k in all the other games.
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#110
08-03-2005, 06:39 PM
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Re: Greenstein - Good Article.
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[ QUOTE ] Out of curiousity, and because I haven't seen it mentioned in this thread... how big IS this "big game"? Limit? No-limit? Blinds? [/ QUOTE ] I believe it's the limit $4000/$8000 game at the Bellagio. Adam [/ QUOTE ] 4000/8000, LHE, PLHE, PLO, 7 stud, i think. Maybe more. I think they play more than just limit.
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