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Old 08-02-2005, 01:20 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default TPTK level 1

very early in a 33.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t790)
MP3 (t810)
CO (t775)
Hero (t770)
SB (t755)
BB (t890)
UTG (t860)
UTG+1 (t855)
UTG+2 (t695)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls t15, MP1 calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls t15, CO calls t15, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls t85, MP3 calls t85, CO folds.

Flop: (t370) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets t400</font>, hero?
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Old 08-02-2005, 01:33 PM
ldavidjm ldavidjm is offline
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Default Re: TPTK level 1

hero pushes all in? In the 10's this is a push for me, and there's a good about of stuff he can be doing this with that you're ahead of K10 Q10 J10 1010 you don't have to worry about JJ QQ KK and you have quite a few outs vs QJ. KJ and KQ are about as icky as it gets and you still have the aces and 10's then.

I push.
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Old 08-02-2005, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: TPTK level 1

Difficult spot here, especially without a read.

I'd probably just push.
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Old 08-02-2005, 01:38 PM
gumpzilla gumpzilla is offline
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Default Re: TPTK level 1

Yikes.

This might actually be a laydown. I think somebody betting out like that is typically going to either have two pair or the pair and openender, sometimes just the openender (maybe TT), very occasionally a set of J's, and pretty rarely K7. (EDIT: I don't think AQ or AJ will limp in and then pot this flop - the kind of player who limps AQ or AJ from MP PF isn't going to be too gung ho here - but I could be surprised.) Anyway, it looks like you don't have much in the way of fold equity, and I think you're either going to be marginally ahead (against thirteen or eleven out hands) or more substantially behind (seven or nine outs against two pair hands). So I probably fold here.
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Old 08-02-2005, 01:39 PM
Hornacek Hornacek is offline
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Default Re: TPTK level 1

Bad texture for the flop; I'd fold. I dont think he's making that move with anything that you are dominated. Either he is the favorite, or he has outs with something like a KT. Early on, I'm not going to take chances like that with AK, unless this guy is a maniac. Just fold and wait for a better chance.
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Old 08-02-2005, 01:54 PM
FUpaymee FUpaymee is offline
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Default Re: TPTK level 1

i agree with gump...i fold...either he has 2 pair or you're a slight favorite but he has a bunch of outs to suck out on you. the large bet means that this guy probably hit 2 pair and wants to protect it against any draw. probably has something along the lines of KJ or KQ.
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Old 08-03-2005, 10:48 AM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: TPTK level 1

i pushed, he called, he has KQ.
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Old 08-03-2005, 11:22 AM
danger_mouse danger_mouse is offline
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Default Re: TPTK level 1

This early, this flop, I fold unless the villain has proven to be an absolute goof. Top pair/top kicker is a hand I'm willing to go broke on in the face of aggression, but not with this flop. Way too easy to be against A10, KQ, KJ, QJ.
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