Live 10/20 Question

[MJL]

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You already realize it was an easy fold.

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Man, this forum needs some serious help.

If you already have the direct odds to call and the reverse implied are minimal then it is an easy call. As for you pocket threes - sometimes calling 2 with a pp is good poker, sometimes it is bad.

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Are you saying 1. you advise he called with his hand? 2. That it is wise in a limit game to pay 2 bets with 33?

[brettbrettr]

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2. That it is wise in a limit game to pay 2 bets with 33?


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First of all, we're playing 1.5 bets. Second of all, if we hit ou hand its pretty likely we're winning. Third of all, this is shaping up to be a big pot. Fourth of all, this is a super easy hand to play. Fifth of all, we have great position if we do hit. Sixth of all, I like a call here with 33 every time.

[jt1]

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That it is wise in a limit game to pay 2 bets with 33?


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If the OP had 33 instead of 79s this is the easiest call ever. Why? Hero is getting about 8-1 to hit his set. The set will come about 1/9 times (i think) Hero will get plenty of action after he hits. Hero has redraws to a boat should he get outdrawn on the turn.

The question you need to be asking is "will i get about 11 or 10X the money i'm putting in if i hit?"

You figure this out by seeing how much is already in the pot.
Who you're playing against (their betting behaviors)
your position, absolute and relative


BTW, you need more than 8x the money your putting in 'cause you will get outdrawn from time to time.

[TakeMeToTheRiver]

If I was fairly certain (>80%) that there would not be a raise from the BB or the limpers, I would call here. Given OP's read on the table -- and assuming that BB is not overly aggressive from the BB -- I would call. The math is laid out in other posts. I would emphasize, however that calling here is more about the future than the current pot odds. Also, these hands (compared to the two-big-card hands) are far easier to get away from when you only get a small piece of the flop.

[Forbillz]

Let me pose another question: say I call, all call. We have 14small bets. Flop comes Ks - 6h - 8h.

Considering I now have 15 outs twice, I'd lead out, hoping to trap people before the pre-flop raiser can raise, correct? At this point, I'm jamming this pot. If the raiser does raise, I 3-bet, as I doubt anyone folds anyways.

Is that right, or am I crazy?

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if you flop any oesd or fd then you try to get as many bets in as possible assuming at least 2 players are still around

if its HU then you're more careful but with an oeStraight Flush draw then you jam, even HU.