Tables different on Party vs Skins - Page 15

Kumubou · #**141** 10-08-2005, 08:11 PM

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For those interested in the EV, they're offering 8 to 1 but the chances are 8.5 to 1. So for every $1 that is wagered, party makes +$0.05(8823) [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Are you factoring in the player's hand? If you have two cards of the opposite color (say, two clubs) the odds of having a red flop are 26/50 * 25/49 * 24*48, right? Which is 13.26(5306)%, and a 8:1 payout would require odds of 12.5% to be breakeven. So now it seems like a +.06 edge, unless I am missing something (you do not have to take the sidebet every hand, right?)

-K

jnalpak · #**142** 10-08-2005, 08:12 PM

All my "buddies" are on party i just found out [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

search wont find any of them!!!!
waaaaaaaaa i want a cookie

POKhER · #**143** 10-08-2005, 08:12 PM

lol that sounds good to me, hope your maths are right.

Voltron87 · #**144** 10-08-2005, 08:13 PM

i think you have to do it before you get your cards. i guarantee that theres no way to win moeny at it though. party thought this through.

mikeyworm · #**145** 10-08-2005, 08:13 PM

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For those interested in the EV, they're offering 8 to 1 but the chances are 8.5 to 1. So for every $1 that is wagered, party makes +$0.05(8823) [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Are you factoring in the player's hand? If you have two cards of the opposite color (say, two clubs) the odds of having a red flop are 26/50 * 25/49 * 24*48, right? Which is 13.26(5306)%, and a 8:1 payout would require odds of 12.5% to be breakeven. So now it seems like a +.06 edge, unless I am missing something (you do not have to take the sidebet every hand, right?)

-K

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Party says: "Side Bets that are placed will be valid for the next hand that is being dealt. " from http://www.partypoker.com/games/how_...side_bets.html

Kumubou · #**146** 10-08-2005, 08:16 PM

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Party says: "Side Bets that are placed will be valid for the next hand that is being dealt. " from http://www.partypoker.com/games/how_...side_bets.html

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Nuts. It looks like Party is dumb only when it comes to other people's money. :|

-K

yellowjack · #**147** 10-08-2005, 08:16 PM

Voltron is right

"Once your color and amount have been chosen, your Side Bet will be on for the next hand that is dealt. You can exit your Side Bet at any time, before the next hand is dealt"

So they are saying you have to remove your sidebet before the hands are dealt, which implies you must have put your sidebet in way before your next hand is dealt.

XxGodJrxX · #**148** 10-08-2005, 08:17 PM

I haven't tried it, but I am assuming that you place the sidebet before the cards are dealt. It COULD be +EV if that was not the case, especially if you are playing with "friends".

popniklas · #**149** 10-08-2005, 08:19 PM

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I tried calculating the EV for betting $2 on any suit. I am getting -$.08 for every bet.

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Yeah... but the EV for betting, say, black if both your cards are red must be higher. And if you can see more than two cards, at some point there is a possibility of getting +EV if many of the cards are of the same color.

I predict that PartyGaming will be busted by colluding colorcounting M.I.T. students.

edit: whoops, I should have read the entire thread before posting. Too bad they didn't make that mistake... so much for hedging suited hands [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

JoeBoo · #**150** 10-08-2005, 08:21 PM

Where's our pal Mike O'Malley, he should be able to shed some light on this.