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Old 08-10-2005, 10:43 PM
topspin topspin is offline
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Default AA river action

After getting numerous comments about my aggression on the river (or lack thereof), I thought I'd review how I play a few river hands. Here's one from a recent 1/2 session.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (12.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: (15.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero ...

MP2 in this hand has been tight preflop and aggressive postflop. Made a good hand on the river, do I go for overcalls here or fire off another raise?
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Old 08-10-2005, 10:51 PM
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Default Re: AA river action

Raise it, with only one person to act behind you, I dont think going for overcalls here will be beneficial. MP2 might 3 bet too if he has a set of 3s or 4s which it sure seems like.
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Old 08-10-2005, 11:05 PM
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Default Re: AA river action

I raise it here , call a 3 bet by MP2, and fold if UTG ck raises and MP2 caps. I agree that MP2 most likely has a lower set but a TAG could also play a nut flush draw the same way.
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Old 08-10-2005, 11:16 PM
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Default Re: AA river action

Raise it up.
Well, MP2 cant have the nut flush draw cause we have the ace of spades, but I thought he was ramming and jammin with a set for sure. I guess Kxs is possibile if x is about a ten.
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Old 08-10-2005, 11:26 PM
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Default Re: AA river action

I'm stupid...
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Old 08-10-2005, 11:58 PM
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Default Re: AA river action

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I raise it here , call a 3 bet by MP2, and fold if UTG ck raises and MP2 caps. I agree that MP2 most likely has a lower set but a TAG could also play a nut flush draw the same way.


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Not at all. I am more woried about UTG playing a flush draw this way. I feel like MP2 has a set guessing tens cause of preflop action. I'd call here cause I'm worried UTG is trying to "fancy play" his flush.
If I had a specific read on UTG that told me to raise (or if I wasn't such a wus) then I think your line has great merit. We're all learning here man take it easy on yourself and take criticism as freindly not mean. Part of learning is making mistakes. (Though in this case I think your thought process was pretty crisp.)

Peace
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Old 08-11-2005, 12:04 AM
irishpint irishpint is offline
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Default Re: AA river action

id raise, UTG has done nothing but call, we have no reason to be worried about him. We have top set, let's either win or lose some money here.
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Old 08-11-2005, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: AA river action

This is either a worse 2p/set, or a flush. I'd say it's more likely a flush (suited broadway perhaps?) and just call here.

Raising is just asking to get re-raised by a flush draw. Save the bet and show the hand down.
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Old 08-11-2005, 01:04 AM
irishpint irishpint is offline
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you think MP2 capped a flush draw OOP? you see top pair on flop/2pair/lower set often enough to make this raise i am pretty sure.
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Old 08-11-2005, 01:11 AM
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Default Re: AA river action

MP2 limps in. We have the ace of spades. He is a TAG. What is he limping in MP that gives him a flush? KQS? KJS? QJS? Kxs? Why in the world would a tag capped the flop OOP with a flush draw? I really expect to see him turn up 33/44 95% of the time.
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