Don't Use Prophecy!

bkbluedevil · #1 07-09-2005, 02:07 PM

Party Poker sent me an e-mail yesterday saying that that I was using illegal software and using it again would mean forfiture of the funds in my account (over $7,000). I e-mailed them back and apparently the bad program is Poker Prophecy. I am rather pissed about basically being called a cheater in the first e-mail and being treated like this as I pay them a so much in rake every month and their term and conditions are so vague. It's very scary that they can just take your money. I'd suggest everyone stop using it. Here is a copy of the second e-mail. Anyone else have anything similar happen?

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Dear xxxxxx,

PartyPoker strictly prohibits usage of programs that:

1) Automate playing of the hand in any way
2) Participate in collusion or any other cheating methods
3) Use any information which may provide you with an unfair advantage through cheating

We detect and block programs that fall in any of the above categories. Usage of such programs may result in poker account closure and funds forfeiture as per our Terms and Conditions.

Our system has detected that you have been using ýPokerprophecyý, ýPokerprophecyý falls in the above categories and usage of ýPokerprophecyý will result in poker account closure and funds forfeiture as per our Terms and Conditions.

Sincerely,

Karthik
Investigations Team
alerts@partypoker.com

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microbet · #2 07-09-2005, 02:16 PM

Is this for real? I don't have PProphecy, but isn't it just a website you use to check stats? How would they know you are using it unless they are sniffing your packets or rooting around your computer?

DrGonzo · #3 07-09-2005, 02:23 PM

Yeah, it is definitely for real.I also got a mail about this. Poker prophecy used to be just a website, but nowadays is a program you install on your computer.

Check this huge thread in the Internet Gambling forum:
Disturbing Email

There has been a lot of discussion and confusion as to if PokerTracker and/or PlayerView/GameTime are also forbidden. It seems like it is only Prophecy for now.

bkbluedevil · #4 07-09-2005, 02:31 PM

This is def for real. I have no idea how they knew I was running it. It's rather scary. The first e-mail I got was the same as in the thread Gonzo linked to; however, my reply wasn't nearly as friendly as his. It was basically "I'm withdrawing all the money in my account and won't play again until you are more specific about what is banned."

Does anyone know what other programs are banned?

microbet · #5 07-09-2005, 02:34 PM

Thanks for the link. I'll check it out.

Even if it is a program, it shouldn't transmit anything to party, so they would either be looking around your hard-drive or sniffing your packets. Either way, that doesn't sound too great. Maybe there is another way that I don't know about though. I assume PProph didn't give up their users.

newfant · #6 07-09-2005, 02:42 PM

I think you can use the GetProcesses() command or something like that on Windows to get a list of the processes you have running. It wouldn't be too hard to get the list of processes and search for Prophecy. I read on the Internet forum that some people are getting around this by using VMWare. Seems like a big hassle to me.

duke44 · #7 07-09-2005, 02:52 PM

We are currently working with Party Poker to see if they really want to lose 20,000 customers.

We should find out shortly what they determine is the best course of action until then I would suggest all Poker Prophecy users to use our online database.

Also no accounts have actually been banned and the higherups we have spoken with at Party Poker were not aware of these emails being sent.

eastbay · #8 07-09-2005, 03:57 PM

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Thanks for the link. I'll check it out.

Even if it is a program, it shouldn't transmit anything to party, so they would either be looking around your hard-drive or sniffing your packets. Either way, that doesn't sound too great. Maybe there is another way that I don't know about though. I assume PProph didn't give up their users.

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They are monitoring the processes on your computer, in addition to taking screen shots, at the very least.

eastbay

runner4life7 · #9 07-09-2005, 04:07 PM

I think Party's Problem with all the different software is that people are making money off of their site by selling the different programs so they found a way to stop that. Thats my guess.

TheUsher · #10 07-09-2005, 02:17 PM

Did you use their software or were you accessing their system on a web based browser?