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Old 02-22-2005, 12:35 AM
davehwm davehwm is offline
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Default Bubble Decision KQo

Not sure what to do here. I really have no reads as I was multi-tabling and arguing with some guy in chat about sucking him out on the bubble (I know, -EV).

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

Hero (t1275)
SB (t4825)
BB (t830)
UTG (t1070)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, Hero??
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Old 02-22-2005, 12:41 AM
zaphod zaphod is offline
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Default Re: Bubble Decision KQo

I would push. I hate trying to fold myself to third or second place. Better to go down fighting!
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Old 02-22-2005, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: Bubble Decision KQo

Unless your pattern mapper says your getting AA next hand, this is an easy push
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Old 02-22-2005, 05:11 AM
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Default Re: Bubble Decision KQo


I go allin here.
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Old 02-22-2005, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: Bubble Decision KQo

[ QUOTE ]
Not sure what to do here. I really have no reads as I was multi-tabling and arguing with some guy in chat about sucking him out on the bubble (I know, -EV).

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

Hero (t1275)
SB (t4825)
BB (t830)
UTG (t1070)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, Hero??

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree with the push, but I think it's a bit closer maybe than the CV so far in this thread. If this is a low buy-in, loose play involving any ace puts you in some danger here when you're 2nd in chips.

Let's put BB on a tight calling range of 77+,AT+, since he's trying to slide into the money. Big stack is looser since he can lose the hand and still not bust, and he knows all 3 of the short stacks are hanging on by their fingernails. Let's start with 55+,A5+,KJ+:



The analysis says push and I like it. However, if you'd been paying a little attention and noticed that SB is looser than that and will call with any ace or any pair, and in addition, BB is a bad player who will do the same, now you're in more trouble:



The analysis shows a close fold. Of course, you'd have to have these reads, especially on BB to follow this line of reasoning and fold. What was the buy-in? The second scenario comes into play more often in $5+1 and $10+1. I wouldn't consider it at $50+5.

By default, I like the first set of assumptions better and push.

eastbay
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