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Old 11-19-2005, 01:25 PM
Spicymoose Spicymoose is offline
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Default Re: TT vs UTG raise to give up on the river.

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Checking is bad. I want him to raise hands I am ahead of. And free cards suck.

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So you advocate calling the river bet or was Hero correct to fold the river?

I think this is a value-check opportunity and not a value-bet opportunity. I'm curious as to what other posters say because I think this is pretty interesting.

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I would call any non ace river. I think we can easily fold once this ace drops though.
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Old 11-19-2005, 03:05 PM
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Default Re: TT vs UTG raise to give up on the river.

These are my thoughts on the situation.

Villian could have
77 x6
88 x6
99 x6
TT x1

which means 19 ways to win

JJ x6
AK x6
AQ x12
AJ x12
ATs x2

which means 38 ways to lose

All of these hands could be played this way. Although Ak will most likely cap. We are getting better than 2:1 odds for win/loss ratio and we only need to be ahead 1:9 times.

Yet, for some reason I think this is an easy fold. So where is my math off?
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Old 11-21-2005, 03:58 AM
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Default Re: TT vs UTG raise to give up on the river.

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Old 11-21-2005, 04:15 AM
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Default Re: TT vs UTG raise to give up on the river.

New version assuming villian will only raise turn if he has a heart.



Villian could have
7h7x x3
8h8x x3
9h9x x3

which means 9 ways to win

JhJx x3
AK x6
AhQx x4
AxQh x3
AhJx x4
AxJh x3
AhTh x1

24 ways to lose


still better than 3:1
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Old 11-21-2005, 04:43 AM
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Default Re: TT vs UTG raise to give up on the river.

you think that range of hands raises the turn and bets the non heart ace on the river?
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Old 11-21-2005, 04:50 AM
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Default Re: TT vs UTG raise to give up on the river.

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you think that range of hands raises the turn and bets the non heart ace on the river?

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And what happened to the kings?
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