JJ vs TAG OOP

aargh57 · #1 10-13-2005, 04:50 PM

SB is TAG 18/9/3 over about 2000 hands

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 2 folds, MP2 calls, 3 folds, SB calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (7 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, MP2 folds, SB 3-bets, Hero calls.

At this point I'm thinking about what hands he could've called with. I put him on overcards here but he could've also had A3 or A8s but I didn't think he'd 3 bet this pot with trips here.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero ?
Final Pot: 10.50 BB

tiltaholic · #2 10-13-2005, 04:54 PM

looks good.

aargh57 · #3 10-13-2005, 04:55 PM

Do I call him on the river?

Sightless · #4 10-13-2005, 05:31 PM

Why not cap the flop? and see what does on the turn?

or if you call his flop 3bet, why not raise the turn?

deception5 · #5 10-13-2005, 05:39 PM

Definitely call the river bet - 99/TT are possible here or even a worse PP if SB puts you on overcards.

Were you raising a non-8 river?

#6 10-13-2005, 05:40 PM

I think I would raise the turn, not sure if I would fold to a 3 bet.

aces_dad · #7 10-13-2005, 05:46 PM

I think I am - the 8 is much more likely to be played than a 3 by this type of player IMO.

The flop 3 bet is pretty aggro even for a TAG with TP/flush draw, though you'd think any PP better than ours would have 3bet pf.

fish43 · #8 10-13-2005, 05:47 PM

Would a TAG really call an UTG raise with A3s out of position? I'm thinking 88-JJ, AQ-Ts, KQ-Js, AKo.

How does the SB see you and MP2? Is he making the call because he thinks you're LAG or LPP.

I put him on a draw or a smaller pair, so I would cap the flop and bump him on the turn, and call down if he 3-bets the turn.

HouseCalls · #9 10-13-2005, 05:53 PM

With villain being SB he could have a lot of hands. I think based on the play the trip 3's is most likely BUT so many other hands are possible I think the chance of trip 3's or of another hand that beats you (AA, KK limping in) is certainly much less than 90%. Based on the pot all you have to have here is better than 1:9 chance to make it a call.

#10 10-13-2005, 05:56 PM

I think I would raise the turn rather than wait for the river. Too many cards can kill your action if he has an 8, and what do you if a club hits?