stars 5/10... GULP

durrrr · #1 10-25-2005, 08:58 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (8 handed)

Hero ($2880.25)
SB ($1115.75)
BB ($237.75)
UTG ($561.75)
UTG+1 ($139)
MP1 ($641.05)
MP2 ($980)
CO ($935)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $30, 3 folds, Hero calls $30, SB raises to $190, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $109 (All-In), Hero calls $160.

Flop: ($529) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)
SB bets $325, Hero?

Ulysses · #2 10-25-2005, 09:05 PM

GULP indeed. I usually just stick it in there to see AA or a lucky JJ. I see the Queens or random garbage I hope for not nearly enough. I guess I'm saying you should fold, but I never do.

mgsimpleton · #3 10-25-2005, 09:11 PM

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GULP indeed. I usually just stick it in there to see AA or a lucky JJ. I see the Queens or random garbage I hope for not nearly enough. I guess I'm saying you should fold, but I never do.

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dry side pot ain't random garbage. i say this is a fold.

Hattifnatt · #4 10-26-2005, 12:26 PM

Agree, with all players having big stacks it's a different story.

whodaman · #5 10-25-2005, 09:06 PM

if your not getting your money all in on this flop why call the pf raise?
I say raise all in.

durrrr · #6 10-25-2005, 09:11 PM

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if your not getting your money all in on this flop why call the pf raise?

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J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
I think QQ gets away a fair % w/ a J high flop, and JJ has me beat. Donkey w/ TT/AK etc. is still possible (i'd think these fold). Its very close between push or fold, but i am curious what the right play would actually be here- and the more i think about it the less decisive my conclusions become.

RED FACE · #7 10-25-2005, 10:28 PM

I don't play this high but wonder why pushing is an option if you fear AA and JJ while QQ could get away from a push. He has half his stack in the pot and you have position. If you're going to commit isn't the play to just call? I wouldn't think you'd be worried about draws at this point really.

lapoker17 · #8 10-25-2005, 09:15 PM

He thinks you have QQ right? Maybe KK? He doesn't care. He has the other KK or AA.

punter11235 · #9 10-25-2005, 09:21 PM

I would fold. Ive recently decided to turn AA vs KK into my moneymaking situation and this requires folding KK in spots like these. But if I am going to fold this flop I would be better off folding preflop. I hate to say this but I think folding preflop is good here unless you are going to stick the rest on the flop.
Btw I like your call before (instead of raising) cause I think that KK make good money postflop vs toppairs lower than K's and it is generally better strategy than raising preflop unless you reraise with many many hands.

Best wishes

durrrr · #10 10-25-2005, 09:29 PM

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I would fold. Ive recently decided to turn AA vs KK into my moneymaking situation and this requires folding KK in spots like these. But if I am going to fold this flop I would be better off folding preflop. I hate to say this but I think folding preflop is good here unless you are going to stick the rest on the flop.
Btw I like your call before (instead of raising) cause I think that KK make good money postflop vs toppairs lower than K's and it is generally better strategy than raising preflop unless you reraise with many many hands.

Best wishes

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this is an easy push on a 456 flop or w/e. The reason i have a tough choice now is the J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. If a Q hit on the flop i probably fold if he bets.