1/2 live OMGWTFLOL

Yesterday I played (read: treaded water, trying not to drown) in the 1/2 game I talked about earlier. For those not familiar with that post, the game is a bunch of older golfer/gambler type guys and a few of them play a strong game.


Hand 1

I'm MP with KK

UTG limps, fold, fold, I raise, button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop

J J 4

check, check,UTG bets I raise, folds around to UTG who calls.

Turn 5

check, I bet, he calls

River A

he checks, I ponder my best move, and figure maybe his most likely holding is a PP, so I bet, he check raises me, I insta-call...

thoughts on that hand greatly appreciated



Hand 2

Family pot less one sane player.

I have AJo in the SB, and i just complete, as it is not uncommon for someone to limp AK or 10-10 thrugh QQ in this game. So there's nine to the flop.....No one raises here, right?

Flop

Kc Qc 3x

I check, bb checks, checks around to MP who bets, everyone inbetween him and me calls, I call, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds


5 players to the turn

Turn

10c


I bet, and MP gives a little speech then says "I raise"

folds back to me, and at this point I looked back at my hand and realize I did have the A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], I three-bet him, and he's not a passive player, fairly agg for this group.
He calls quick.

River was a 3 or 4 non club.

I bet......???? thoughts???

You'll love these results, and you'll understand the title when I post them....




Tex

[ShortySaurus]

both played well...nh

[flawless_victory]

jinx.

[flawless_victory]

both hands well played.

[stoxtrader]

I dont love the flop raise in hand 1.

[flawless_victory]

i was gonna mention that id rather call there, but it doesnt really seem like too big a deal either way.

[1800GAMBLER]

you might be able to c/r the river in hand 2.

Please explain (I'm pretty new). This was a good sized pot, and it seems to me you would want to protect your hand. If the A had come on the turn instead of the river, I would have been glad I raised. Are you worried about trip jacks?

[stoxtrader]

If an A comes on the turn of course you are glad you raised the flop. Same thing if a K comes. wait, actually you would have liked a call better if the turn was a K, but i digress. What about the the rest of the deck?

Raising is not terrible, especially if anyone in the game will call 2 bets with an A or worse, or if pairs QQ and below are out. But I like calling better. You put in less when there is a jack out there, and you encourage unpaired hands to "draw". It's a big win if anyone without an Ace stays in the hand. It's actually even a win if Ace high hands draw on you as they are not getting correct odds.

OK, I think I follow you. Thank you.