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Old 10-29-2005, 03:58 AM
Victor Victor is offline
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Default fairly simple position question?

it happened today that i was at a table with 2 lags and a loose passive. both were 32/25/1.8 and 3bet very willing preflop esp from the sb.

(1) played straightforward and didnt spew postflop (you could even say he played well)

while the other (2) would bet the whole way so long as he wasnt raised and would call down with any piece of the board.

the loosey (3) was 50/10/.8 and would call down with anything but play his strong hands strongly.

so what do you guys think the best spot would be here? example answer: 1 2 3 hero, or 2 3 hero, etc.
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Old 10-29-2005, 04:04 AM
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Default Re: fairly simple position question?

Interseting question. I would say 2, 3 hero, 1.
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Old 10-29-2005, 04:12 AM
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Default Re: fairly simple position question?

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Interseting question. I would say 2, 3 hero, 1.

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i disagree so you have to convince me.
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Old 10-29-2005, 04:18 AM
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Default Re: fairly simple position question?

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Interseting question. I would say 2, 3 hero, 1.

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Agreed.
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Old 10-29-2005, 04:20 AM
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Default Re: fairly simple position question?

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Interseting question. I would say 2, 3 hero, 1.

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Agreed.

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Me too.
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Old 10-29-2005, 04:32 AM
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Default Re: fairly simple position question?

perhaps i should describe the lags a bit more. they willingly and routinely would 3bet a5s, 44, j10 with a coldcaller in between (the table was fuller b4).
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Old 10-29-2005, 05:35 AM
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Interseting question. I would say 2, 3 hero, 1.

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Yep.
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Old 10-29-2005, 05:47 AM
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Default Re: fairly simple position question?

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Interseting question. I would say 2, 3 hero, 1.

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i disagree so you have to convince me.

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The big reason (pretty sure) has to do with insane odds u could be getting in a lot of situations compared to if it was lag, lag, LP, You.
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Old 10-29-2005, 06:06 AM
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Default I disagree with all of you, why am I wrong?

I say 3, 2, hero 1.

With the LP on the button when it's your big blind, you will face an OP stea situation much less frequently, and could almost always defend (2)'s steal attempts.

Using the donker to trap the LP for more bets (the 2,3,hero,1 is conducive to this) is nice, but I don't think it is as important as the huge edge in steal/defense situations gained by having an LP on the button, and idiot LAG on the SB when you're BB, and having an LP in the BB when you're OTB.

If this were a higher-handed game I would agree with everyone else. But 4-handed it's all steals, and I think 3,2,hero,1 pwns.
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Old 10-29-2005, 06:11 AM
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Default Re: I disagree with all of you, why am I wrong?

When does Victor say it's a 4 handed game?
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