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Old 12-03-2005, 11:44 PM
Gugel Gugel is offline
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Default Bad push?

I'm a LAP and raise a lot of hands preflop. Anyway, how's the turn push? Is it better to reraise to $85 (like the flop reraise) on the turn and get him fully pot committed? Or is a push on the turn fine since I've been a LAP?

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($323.40)
Hero ($751.10)
Button ($320.60)
SB ($73)
BB ($204)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, Button calls $20, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $16.

Flop: ($66) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $85</font>, Button folds, UTG calls $60.

Turn: ($236) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $25</font>, Hero pushes
Final Pot: $261
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Old 12-04-2005, 12:09 AM
RikaKazak RikaKazak is offline
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Default Re: Bad push?

it looks like he's scared, and trying to get to showdown cheaply, I would milk him here, worst case scenario villain has 2 outs with like JJ, so I would raise to $100, then on river I would milk him again.
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Old 12-04-2005, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: Bad push?

Don't post final pot size.
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Old 12-04-2005, 01:30 AM
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Default Re: Bad push?

I think the best play would be to bet about a third of UTG's remaining stack. Around $70 should be good. It seems like he would fold anyway but at least it's a better chance of a call or a raise. If he raises it's happy dance time! haha
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Old 12-04-2005, 02:57 AM
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Default Re: Bad push?

I don't see what pushing accomplishes.

U can milk so many worst hands or like other drawing hands catch up.

Only hands i see calling you would be getting all in anyways if u make a smaller raise.
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Old 12-04-2005, 03:03 AM
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Default Re: Bad push?

If all you had was a vulnerable two pair then a push would be good.

But now, he's drawing pretty much dead, so milk him, just make it $100-120 or so and get the rest in on the river.
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