5/10 flop puzzle

Position · #1 10-10-2005, 06:16 PM

Push, Check/fold, or Other? I have 2/3 pot, or $200, left. They all cover me. There are 4 opponents.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (9 handed) converter

Button : VeryBroadHandRange / ($327.50)
SB ($1364)
Hero ($269)
UTG : VeryBroadHandRange / ($1751.80)
UTG+1 : TightReasonableHandRange / ($1146.80)
MP1 ($1005)
MP2 ($962.25)
MP3 ($1945.05)
CO : ReasonableHandRange / ($880.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG : VeryBroadHandRange)/ calls $10,
1 fold,
MP1 calls $10,
2 folds,
CO : ReasonableHandRange)/ calls $10,
Button : VeryBroadHandRange)/ calls $10,
1 fold,
Hero raises to $60,
UTG : VeryBroadHandRange)/ calls $50,
MP1 calls $50,
CO : ReasonableHandRange)/ calls $50,
Button : VeryBroadHandRange)/ calls $50.

Flop: ($305) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)

Final Pot: $305

#2 10-10-2005, 06:44 PM

Uhhh, play within your bankroll with more than 27bb's at a time?

Position · #3 10-10-2005, 06:47 PM

heh

that's one way to approach a puzzle

#4 10-10-2005, 07:07 PM

You can put yourself in all sorts of puzzling situations if you so desire. There are some situations you can avoid altogether, though, like the one you just described.

c/f that [censored], and move down stakes where you can buy in for the full amount.

Position · #5 10-10-2005, 07:50 PM

i solemnly swear my bankroll has nothing to do with my stack in this hand!

i hear one vote for Check/fold.

who else will tackle the flop?

beset7 · #6 10-10-2005, 08:11 PM

raaaaallll innn babby

is there anything to tackle with less then a pot-sized bet left!? All of the players have hands in their range that include all kinds of hands that you have crushed and a bunch that don't. You are not going to be able to play poker here so gamble or don't gamble.

Benholio · #7 10-10-2005, 08:11 PM

C/F. If you had a full stack, would you CB into 4 players OOP? Probably not, and you have even less fold equity when you are getting all-in here. I would call you with any pair on this flop.

Also, this is something to be considered when making the raise from the BB to begin with. With so many limpers, you are going to be multiway if you only raise to $50. With your stacksize, push or check preflop.

j0wlev · #8 10-10-2005, 08:19 PM

Push the flop.

Position · #9 10-10-2005, 08:57 PM

Cool, vote tied at 2-2 now.

I raised it to $60 pre to get it heads-up or 3way, knowing I would almost certainly push on any flop (unless the tightest guy alone called). I totally did not expect *4* callers (so 5way). This game doesn't play that loosely. I would have raised to $100 instead & pushed any flop (because then it WOULD be only 2-3way) had I expected such loosies.

I would call you with any pair on this flop. is very exploitable.

how often will you have a pair to call me with? how often will they? will all pairs in all positions call? Doing the math is where this gets really interesting.

Mr. Curious · #10 10-10-2005, 08:59 PM

Looks like you were trying to play Short Stack style. This is a push, especially since there are no straight or flush draws out there, and if someone has a J, then so be it, plus your push might get someone holding a 3 to fold.

GAMBOOL!!