UTG with AA in very loose 10/20

TaintedRogue · #1 10-13-2004, 08:03 PM

Okay, you've got the rockets and are first to act. Now, if you open/raise, you will get 5-7 callers (11 man game) 90% of the time. If you limp, you will get the same, with one of the early players raising. You cannot expect a re-raise if you open/raise, because there is no such thing as "isolating" unless they have really bad hands. I mean the SB will call 2 with 32 suited.
Do you open/raise, limp/call or limp/re-raise?

elysium · #2 10-13-2004, 11:13 PM

open raise

JasonP530 · #3 10-14-2004, 03:11 AM

raise, and start to build a big pot. Get ready to checkrasie the turn, or do some funky stuff to clear some people out of the big pot. Gotta do what you can to win it when the pot is big.

Lawrence Ng · #4 10-14-2004, 06:11 AM

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If you limp, you will get the same, with one of the early players raising.

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If I have AA UTG and am 90 percent sure there will be an open-raiser if I limp, but not a re-raiser if I raise, then I will limp-reraise 100 % of the time and I don't care how many callers there are. Capiche?

TaintedRogue · #5 10-14-2004, 10:13 AM

Capiche..........that's what I've been doing...alot of ups and downs in this game though..........

Roy Hobbs · #6 10-14-2004, 10:28 AM

But if you think that you will get the same number of callers with an open raise, the decision to limp shouldn't matter, right?

kelvin474 · #7 10-14-2004, 02:26 PM

except that limp/reraise gets 3 bets in when your equity is better than anyone elses.

pudley4 · #8 10-14-2004, 02:26 PM

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But if you think that you will get the same number of callers with an open raise, the decision to limp shouldn't matter, right?

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Sure it should - you should limp-reraise to get more money in. He said if he raises, no one will 3-bet. So he's got 6 opponents for 14sb. If he only limps, someone will raise and he can reraise; so he's got 6 opponents for 21sb.

Senor Choppy · #9 10-14-2004, 05:24 PM

The main justifications for open-raising with AA is to get in more bets preflop or to limit the field (the former may or may not happen, the latter is just wrong).

If you know you can get in more bets preflop AND it doesn't change the size of the field, what's not to like?

Failing to limp-reraise in this situation would be one of the worst mistakes in the history of poker.

surfdoc · #10 10-14-2004, 06:03 PM

Use whatever strategy will get the most money in the pot. You have the best possible hand. If you are sure there will be multiple callers and a raiser, this is a no brainer limp-reraise. So what if the pot will be swollen to the point where everyone will chase. Simple equity situation...win less often but bigger pots.