Check the turn?

Stefan_K · #1 12-04-2005, 03:46 PM

Is this a good spot to check the turn or do we bet because we have a lot of outs against a passive opponent?

villian is a 27/5 0.8/0.8/1,2.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets

jba · #2 12-04-2005, 03:48 PM

I bet here, charge the diamonds and maybe get a high to fold.

MrWookie47 · #3 12-04-2005, 03:50 PM

This guy looks fairly tight, so I'm not convinced we can fold him all that often once he calls on the flop. I think this is a good spot to check with outs.

SparkyDog · #4 12-04-2005, 04:39 PM

Without a reliable WTSD read, I'd check behind here. As a poster earlier mentioned, he's pretty tight which means he's less likely to be pairless after he calls the flop, and that nine hits a lot of hit potential holdings that might checkraise you here. The pot's not huge, so it's not a disaster to give a free card to a draw, and he's not likely to bluff since he's so passive. So I would check.

Stefan_K · #5 12-04-2005, 05:23 PM

ok, thanks for the response in this particular case he had pretty standard 35went to sd, so you like a check?

SparkyDog · #6 12-04-2005, 06:10 PM

yeah... the pot is just too small to worry too much about draws and you'll make more when you hit if you check the turn.

RaiNz · #7 12-04-2005, 06:46 PM

So, if we check behind on the turn and a rag comes on the river. If villian bets what is our play here. This is where I seem to be having the hardest time. It seems that if I check the turn then I am getting bet into 80% of the time. Do we call the river, or are we forced to fold?

Peter Harris · #8 12-04-2005, 06:51 PM

i think if the turn is checked through and villain donks river, one must fold.

admiralfluff · #9 12-04-2005, 07:13 PM

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If villain is fairly standard, I would bet. If a tight villain called on a slightly less coordinated board, I would check and fold river if bet into. I think villain is peeling light, or on a draw that we beat (non A-high fd)more than 20% of the time. Like you said, if you check the turn you are being bet into often on the river, and it's tought to call with K-high (even though it may be correct).

admiralfluff · #10 12-04-2005, 08:22 PM

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