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Old 07-19-2005, 07:47 PM
ebaudry ebaudry is offline
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Default Please confirm my QQ push was a mistake

Comments on my PF raise amount?

Given no info on first limper, and knowing second limper would probably have raised with Ace-rag, my Flop push is still pretty bad right?

It seems now that I should have raised more on the Flop and then I would have known someone probably had an Ace. Alternatively, would a smaller bet sometimes be smart on the flop to hope for an easy fold if someone raises?

***** Hand History for Game 2391448336 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:14082670 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Tuesday, July 19, 19:38:34 EDT 2005
Table Table 13838 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 6: ToughTony333 ( $600 )
Seat 9: WishBaby ( $700 )
Seat 1: dageester ( $3290 )
Seat 10: HERO ( $670 )
Seat 7: TUCK710 ( $2235 )
Seat 2: SlickTex ( $505 )
Trny:14082670 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Qs Qc ]
dageester folds.
SlickTex calls [50].
ToughTony333 folds.
TUCK710 calls [50].
WishBaby calls [25].
HERO raises [150].
SlickTex calls [150].
TUCK710 calls [150].
WishBaby folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ As, Ad, 5s ]
HERO is all-In [470]
SlickTex is all-In [305]
TUCK710 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9d ]
** Dealing River ** [ 8c ]
HERO shows [ Qs, Qc ] two pairs, aces and queens.
SlickTex shows [ Ac, Qd ] three of a kind, aces.
HERO wins 165 chips from side pot #1 with two pairs, aces and queens.
SlickTex wins 1260 chips from the main pot with three of a kind, aces.
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Old 07-19-2005, 07:50 PM
Freudian Freudian is offline
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Default Re: Please confirm my QQ push was a mistake

I'd push preflop. People in the 22s call often enough with crap and if they don't you still pick up 150 chips. Also if you get callers you have to play this hand out of position, which sucks.
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Old 07-19-2005, 07:51 PM
Bigwig Bigwig is offline
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Default Re: Please confirm my QQ push was a mistake

That's not enough preflop. You need to make it more. QQ is vulnerable enough that I might just go ahead and push. On the flop, I think you have to get your money in. If he spiked trips, oh well. You're too short stacked to get fancy or fold.
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Old 07-19-2005, 07:52 PM
pokerlaw pokerlaw is offline
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Default Re: Please confirm my QQ push was a mistake

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I'd push preflop. People in the 22s call often enough with crap and if they don't you still pick up 150 chips. Also if you get callers you have to play this hand out of position, which sucks.

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Old 07-19-2005, 07:54 PM
ldavidjm ldavidjm is offline
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Default Re: Please confirm my QQ push was a mistake

I think I agree with the push preflop crowd. With Kings or Aces I might just raise here to try and get more value out of it, but with Queens I think I'd just shove it since basically there's no real way you can fold on an unfavorable flop anyway.
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Old 07-19-2005, 08:11 PM
TWINUNO TWINUNO is offline
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Default Re: Please confirm my QQ push was a mistake

Push Preflop on this one- the sad part is AQ at the 20's probably would have came for the ride and if not you still pick up a lil less then a quarter of your stack from the limpers and the blinds.
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Old 07-19-2005, 08:15 PM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Re: Please confirm my QQ push was a mistake

I might have pushed preflop.

There's no way I'm not going broke here.
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Old 07-19-2005, 08:16 PM
valenzuela valenzuela is offline
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Default Re: Please confirm my QQ push was a mistake

QQ is basically a hand u want to go all-in with preflop, unless ure doing some huge overbetting pushing is correct.( this is advice for the lower buyins SNGs when ppl with crap enough)For instance blinds are 15/30..jimmy raises to 60, luke calls 60, my turn to act on the button( i have t775)chips in the middle. Maybe some will disagree but I feel the play is correct for the 11s and the 22s.

EDIT: to the OP I might be wrong, I dont want to be giving horrible advice.
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Old 07-19-2005, 08:20 PM
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Default Re: Please confirm my QQ push was a mistake

I definitely move in on this flop.
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Old 07-19-2005, 08:22 PM
The Don The Don is offline
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Default Re: Please confirm my QQ push was a mistake

Also... In a $22 AQ is calling if you move in preflop so you are going bust regardless. I like the way you played it.
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