Bubble semi-bluff

11t · #1 07-19-2005, 03:56 PM

I hate being put in situations like this.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

Hero (t3290)
BB (t3110)
UTG (t2135)
Button (t4965)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to t600, BB calls t400.

Flop: (t1075) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets t800, Hero raises to t2665

Bigwig · #2 07-19-2005, 03:57 PM

I like it.

dinero2433 · #3 07-19-2005, 04:17 PM

Do we know anything about BB? We would prefer not to be called here, so judging this play probably depends on the read. I like it if you think the player is reasonably solid - A good player will find it difficult to call with top pair or even two pair after your check-raise, especially given his still very competitive chip position.

11t · #4 07-19-2005, 04:24 PM

A solid player isn't calling a raise with q8os.

durron597 · #5 07-19-2005, 04:47 PM

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I hate being put in situations like this.

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Really? It's situations like this why I make money at poker.

This could not be more standard.

Edit: don't do this if BB is the sort of player who needs a hand to make this bet (like QJ+). If he is, just open push.

dinero2433 · #6 07-19-2005, 05:05 PM

Precisely - which is why I think you made a good play if BB is a reasonably solid player. If he's not, he might call with Q8o.

skierdude1000 · #7 07-19-2005, 05:12 PM

If BB is a real solid player, he's going to bet out with probably a queen or overcards.... pushing over the top will get you called if he has a queen

11t · #8 07-19-2005, 05:20 PM

I still prefer checking even if the bb isn't the sort of player who will make this bet.

We are on the bubble and survival is key, open pushing here is a pretty big overbet of the pot and is going to get me called by worse hands than check-raising. If I check and he checks behind I take a free card off, I would probably bet 800 at whatever turn hit if he is checking behind me whether I hit or not.

Basically my idea is this, if I check and he raises I dump back. If I check and he checks behind I get one card to hit a pair/draw and I am betting out no matter what hits. Is my logic ridiculous?

dinero2433 · #9 07-19-2005, 05:29 PM

You think so? I'm laying down a queen if I get reraised all in here. Is that a week play on my part?

durron597 · #10 07-19-2005, 05:51 PM

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and is going to get me called by worse hands than check-raising.

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This is simply not true. You have him covered.

And the pot is decent sized, you increase your stack by 30% if you take it down.

If he checks behind, you lead out for 800 and he pushes do you call? Of course not.