JJ with lots of action

Guthrie · #1 11-04-2005, 07:11 PM

UTG is 41/11/1.62, MP1 is 30/9.85/1.36, but not a lot of hands on either, and early in the game. I considered 3-betting UTG's check raise on the flop, but I really didn't think anybody would fold, and I was starting to think maybe I was against at least one bigger pocket pair and maybe a set, so I just called. Then they both come out firing on the turn. Now what? I just can't read donks. They'll slowplay a set, but call down overwhelming aggression with ace high. And I have two of them here.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 2 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, 3 folds, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG bets, MP1 raises, Hero ?

cold_cash · #2 11-04-2005, 07:26 PM

You're losing to UTG a lot of the time.

It seems AA and KK would cap pre-flop, but not always.

You're also behind QQ and TT, (although TT's best play would be to lead the flop).

It's difficult to tell exactly what MP1 might have, but with the chances of you being behind UTG along with MP1's play on the turn, I'm folding. (UTG might also make it 3-bets behind you, which would suck hard.)

Vex · #3 11-04-2005, 07:26 PM

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Hero ?

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I think three-betting the flop was in order.

With things as they are, I'm inclined to fold the turn, because it sure looks like playing means I might be likely be the meat in a reraise sandwich. This is why I would've preferred to have reraised the flop, because I would have gotten a better feel for their holdings at the sb price.

#4 11-04-2005, 07:28 PM

I hate to say it, and would hate to do it, but I think fold is the answer. Someone has to have a queen. Those two are having a kicker war. Sucks to throw away premium hands but sometimes you just have to. I have to admit it is easier saying to throw away two jacks on this forum than actually having them in your hand.

Greg J · #5 11-04-2005, 07:30 PM

I think you have to fold this on the turn.

cold_cash · #6 11-04-2005, 07:35 PM

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I might be likely be the meat in a reraise sandwich

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Hehe, sweet.

I really don't think the turn is that close.