Daniel Craig as the new James Bond.

[samjjones]

One more quick note. I watched "Closer" the other day, and am not convinced that Clive Owen would've been a horrible Bond.

[mrkilla]

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What do people think is the worst Bond film? It'd have to be 'Diamonds Are Forever' (how could they blow a Connery/Vegas film and make it look a dull place, huh?), or maybe 'View to a Kill' for me. I think.

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The worst one was the Unoffical Bond film, Never Say never again, even if it did have Sean Conery in it.

But how you can all but Dalton before Moore I will never understand, Moore goes #2 and its not close. Moore had some stinker plots too but he pulled them out.

Its funny that there going to remake Casino Royale. I wonder how its gonig to hold up on Screen and how true to the book it will be. THe new Bonds are very "modern tech" Casino Royale will be Quasi Futuristic Tech

[samjjones]

If you've read the books, it would probably be more clear to you why some like Dalton more than Moore. Moore was the "jokey" Bond, and looked and acted absolutely nothing like his literary counterpart. Also, Moore was never convincing to me in his fight scenes. The Moore/John Glen films were marred by ludicrous plots and set pieces as well. In fact, the only Moore film which I really like is "The Spy Who Loved Me"...which coincidentally, is absolutely nothing like the book.

[mrkilla]

Whelp Movies and there counter books are rarely the same. It was the 70's I guess...
I'm not this huge Moore fan, I just think hes better then Dalton, theres only one Bond it will always be Connery

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To me, there's something wrong with a Bond who's able to do the most insane [censored] with the little smirk on his face. I see no bad-ass or ruggedness at all w/ Brosnan, which made movies like the Bourne Identity make me stop watching Bond w/ Brosnan.

James Bond should be a bad motherfucka that could whoop your ass and do secret agent [censored] at the same time, not a preppy little british man who looks more fit for a wine tasting party than a spy mission.

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Exactly. Brosnan is so spectacularly wimpy, with such startlingly narrow shoulders, that he's almost funny because of that before he even opens his mouth. As a badass, he's a total non-starter. I seriously think there's hardly anybody on OOT who couldn't kick his ass.

Bond needs to have some of that special forces aspect to him, that this is a guy who is seriously trained and has every intention of completing his mission come hell or high water, no matter who or what gets in the way. Smart, but unquestionably dangerous. A guy you really don't want to unload on you at all. A man you do not want to make mad.

Somebody whose morality you might even question or find a little cruel, if you forget that not only is he trying to do his job for his country and save lives, but that he believes in that job utterly, 100%, and is not about to be dissuaded by anything that gets thrown up in front of him. A little fanatical? Yeah. But definitely a part of his job, and a job that actually has no place at all for someone who isn't completely committed down to the soles of his shoes. An intelligent monster. An ape in a suit. The contrast is what makes him interesting.

Guys like Moore and Brosnan have no contrast. They're pussies. What you see is what you get.

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I'm one of the few who actually thinks Timothy Dalton was a great Bond. Manly, suave,cool under fire but not a cartoon. He was unfortunately stuck with some of the worst Bond storylines ever.

IMO it's Connery>Dalton>Brosnan>Lazenby>Moore.

And Craig looks like a good addition.

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Dalton brought back the threat and some needed macho into the role. But the whole concept of a "Bond for the age of AIDS" was a poor one, and he did get some sucky scripts.

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Diebitter -- Moonraker was my least favorite. Jaws, the whole thing was just so over the top cartoonish.

samjones -- Clive Owens looked like he could be a very good Bond to me. He had the knowing, sly cruelty in that gambling movie where he was the dealer, I forget the name. He could muster a hard but polished look. He could use some serious time in the gym to not look quite as much a jangly bunch of bones with his shirt off. He could have been quite good, I think. The last line of that gambling movie, and his look while it went on in monologue over his image, was prime Bond in what it got across: "I have the ability to make you lose."

[samjjones]

Owen looks like a great Bond until he opens his mouth. I think Craig will do a good job; as always, its up to the screenplay. FWIW, I think they should recast all of the major parts (new "M", new "Q", etc.), and for God's sake, please get Felix Leiter back into the mix.

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If you've read the books, it would probably be more clear to you why some like Dalton more than Moore. Moore was the "jokey" Bond, and looked and acted absolutely nothing like his literary counterpart. Also, Moore was never convincing to me in his fight scenes. The Moore/John Glen films were marred by ludicrous plots and set pieces as well. In fact, the only Moore film which I really like is "The Spy Who Loved Me"...which coincidentally, is absolutely nothing like the book.

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Agreed again. Spy Who Loved Me was surprisingly decent in parts, especially for a Moore movie.

Moore made Bond a ludicrous franchise, in my opinion. He was so physically unconvincing that his movies became more and more about more and more absurd gadgets and things like boat chases that stunt men could do and went on forever. The rest was fluffed out with as cartoony a bunch of business as could possibly be found, and Moore coming in to chortle at himself on top of it. The real spirit of the Bond stories and character was chucked out completely. It was a miserable degrading of the franchise. One thing you could count on was for Moore to be unexciting.

Moore's version of Bond was kind of like the 60's t.v. show's version of Batman. Except much less fun.

[bisonbison]

Craig was smart and menacing in Elizabeth, so I believe he can pull it off, but physically he has a much different look and presence than any of the previous Bonds, so it'll be interesting to see how it works.

Of course, most of it depends on the scripts. No Halle Berry/ice skating/stealth boats plz.