hit set on uni-suited flop

Pablo · #1 12-01-2005, 10:48 AM

Do you bet this flop or wait for a safe card on the turn?

Ultimate Bet 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, MP2 calls, 3 folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)

WalkAmongUs · #2 12-01-2005, 10:49 AM

I'd go ahead and bet because you do have a large equity edge over anything except a made flush. In the event you are behind a made flush you have a bunch of outs to the full house.

jaxUp · #3 12-01-2005, 10:50 AM

bet/cap flop. put in 2-3 bets on big streets UI.

Pablo · #4 12-01-2005, 11:02 AM

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I'd go ahead and bet because you do have a large equity edge over anything except a made flush. In the event you are behind a made flush you have a bunch of outs to the full house.

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That was my dilemna; I knew I had a large equity edge, but thought the extra 4 or 5 small bets going into the pot would give everybody odds to call to the river. Flawed thinking?

Pablo · #5 12-01-2005, 11:07 AM

For better or worse, I checked the flop. When the player to my right bets the turn, should I try to protect my hand with a raise, or hope for overcalls?

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, MP2 calls, 3 folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks.

Turn: (5 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, Hero ?

jaxUp · #6 12-01-2005, 11:09 AM

I'd go a head and cap the turn and put in one bet on the river.

Pablo · #7 12-01-2005, 11:10 AM

Comments on all streets welcome.

Ultimate Bet 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, MP2 calls, 3 folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks.

Turn: (5 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, MP2 folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

River: (11 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, BB folds, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB

jaxUp · #8 12-01-2005, 11:23 AM

overall this hand was way underplayed. The probability of someone having a made flush on the flop is not even close to high enough to scare us too much. What you may have been scared of was that there are still 2 cards left to come, and you don't want to put in a lot of bets only to be sucked out on. 35% of the time the flush will come in, the rest of the time we win the pot. This means that as long as we're not putting in more than 2/3 of the pot it is fine to raise like mad (until we believe there's a significant chance we're behind). Since it is not possible to be putting in more than 1/2 the pot, you should bet/raise like mad until you have good reason to believe you're behind.

@bsolute_luck · #9 12-01-2005, 12:03 PM

you have to bet that flop. letting a lone heart out draw you is a bad idea.

Pablo · #10 12-01-2005, 12:11 PM

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you have to bet that flop. letting a lone heart out draw you is a bad idea.

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I don't see how anybody with a heart is folding this flop; could you explain please?