My biggest leak. Not folding

the preflop raiser acts right after him, how could he c/r?

[kapw7]

I like the flop 3-bet for 3 reasons:
1. CO will put bets in with nearly anything
2. Position: If we get capped or get bet on the turn (stop'n'go) then we can let go since I doubt we are ahead or have 5 outs here. Our J is dominated our Q outs are tainted (we might be against overpair / 2 pair etc).
3. Flop bet is cheaper

The downside is that we can be C-Red on the turn and thus pay 1 more BB.

[Cancuk]

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the preflop raiser acts right after him, how could he c/r?

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check. then after he bets. raise.

quite simple really.

you can't c/r for odds if he's to your left. unless it's just for value instead, that's different. please be more clear.

[Cancuk]

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If we get capped or get bet on the turn (stop'n'go) then we can let go since I doubt we are ahead or have 5 outs here. Our J is dominated our Q outs are tainted (we might be against overpair / 2 pair etc).


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I think theres a pretty good chance our five outs are good here if he caps. AA, KK, QQ, AJ are the hands that would make sense for a cap. QQ we have two outs and AJ we have three outs. Theres 6 combinations of AA, 6 combinations of KK, 3 combinations of QQ, and 8 combinations of AJ. So, mathematically speaking, theres a better chance of him having AA or KK (12) where we have 5 outs than QQ or AJ (11) where we have 3 or 2 outs. Theres also a better chance of him raising AA, KK, or QQ from the SB than AJo and theres no legit hands that he would raise from the BB in a multiway pot that would creat two pair.

I didn't add JJ as a hand because I think he would wait until the turn to raise to try and get a bet from the button, because he knows that the CO is coming along no matter what. maybe i'm giving him too much credit?

If i made mistakes, i'm sorry...it's early..i haven't slept yet, I think i may be a degenerate.

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you can't c/r for odds if he's to your left. unless it's just for value instead, that's different. please be more clear.

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c/r for value.
how do you c/r someone you have position on?

[2+2 wannabe]

I like the flop c/r, bet, bet line

If you get 3-bet on the flop you can probably fold the turn UI (in this protected pot)

If you get raised along the way you can probably fold

i think you played it fine. six person you have to willing to play. 10 person might change things though.

if one of your opponents hit something unlikely so be it. a river fold would be terrible

pre-flop, i was wondering about raising. QJo is pretty good at shorthanded table. although i probably wouldn't raise.

calling the raise for one bet is fine. folding that would be crazy.

some of the literature says play second pair like top pair in six man. and you had top pair.

you generally played it fine. if it was 10 player, i might cahnge my opinion.

[DMBFan23]

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you can't c/r for odds if he's to your left. unless it's just for value instead, that's different. please be more clear.

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I am with you, the pot is too big to be inflating it even further with a marginal top pair. I would bet the flop just like OP did

[mtdoak]

Folding QJo getting 7-1 in a 6 max game would be a horrible, horrible, mistake.