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Old 11-14-2005, 05:53 PM
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Default 55: layin down AKo


Level:4 Blinds(50/100)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: ricoman10 ( $1990 )
Seat 5: blownmoney ( $440 )
Seat 10: splyushka ( $2330 )
Seat 2: HERO ( $2790 )
Seat 3: wthorp ( $1425 )
Seat 7: zzzDragonzzz ( $1025 )
Trny:17409878 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ad Ks ]
ricoman10 folds.
blownmoney folds.
zzzDragonzzz folds.
splyushka calls [100].
HERO raises [300].
wthorp is all-In [1325]
splyushka folds.
HERO ???

the villain here has restolen a few pots...but he is putting his whole stack on the line here and i definitely dont need to give my chips away to aa or kings....i dont even need a race here....is this an easy fold????
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Old 11-14-2005, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: 55: layin down AKo

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the villain here has restolen a few pots...

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This part turns it into a call for me. There is too much money in the pot to fold to an underpair in the case that it's a race. Also it makes me think that it's (even more) unlikely that he has exactly AA or KK.

Added on that your stack is still healthy if you lose this, and you can pwn the bubble if you win it, it's a call for me.
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Old 11-14-2005, 06:00 PM
vinyard vinyard is offline
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Default Re: 55: layin down AKo

I think its an easy fold and I think it would be very presumptive to assume you are in a race here. The only hand I think you are ahead of that he does this with is AQ and most players won't do that.
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Old 11-14-2005, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: 55: layin down AKo

This fold would be balls against almost any villain, let alone the one you described.

Most people have a pretty big range here, and some of those people don't have AA / KK in that range (because they would play it differently). Lots of dead cash in the pot, pretty easy call in general, especially against your villain.
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Old 11-14-2005, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: 55: layin down AKo

There are more than enough dead chips to justify a call with a race here. Your read that he has restolen several pots makes it hard for me to put him on a range that is tight enough to justify folding. Your holding makes AA/KK less likely than QQ/JJ. Call. Your far from out of it if you lose.
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Old 11-14-2005, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: 55: layin down AKo

Easy call IMO.

I expect to see any PP and AQ/AJ here more than not.
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Old 11-14-2005, 06:24 PM
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Default Re: 55: layin down AKo

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Easy call IMO.

I expect to see any PP and AQ/AJ here more than not.

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Old 11-14-2005, 06:36 PM
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Default Re: 55: layin down AKo

I must be missing something.. I couldn't see folding this hand given almost any read, let alone yours.
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Old 11-14-2005, 06:41 PM
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Default Re: 55: layin down AKo

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...and you can pwn the bubble if you win it, it's a call for me.

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What does pwn stand for?
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Old 11-14-2005, 07:03 PM
Slim Pickens Slim Pickens is offline
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Default Re: 55: layin down AKo

There's no way I'm laying down AK getting almost 2:1 on my call.Even if he has KK, you're not that far behind the pot odds. You have to win 35% of the time to make the pot odds work out, and the $EV shouldn't slant it to more than 40% or so...

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 42.8192 % 28.08% 14.74% { AKo }
Hand 2: 57.1808 % 42.44% 14.74% { JJ+, AQs+, AKo }

So you're 42% even against a very tight re-stealing range, which it sounds like he doesn't have anyway.
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