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Old 09-13-2005, 05:07 PM
zambonidrivr zambonidrivr is offline
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Default Re: Bubble aggression maybe taken too far.

i push all these hands, when stack of 2200 is out of the way. so yes, switch situation from utg to button, and full steam ahead.
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Old 09-13-2005, 05:08 PM
jeffraider jeffraider is offline
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Default Re: Bubble aggression maybe taken too far.

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i push all these hands, when stack of 2200 is out of the way. so yes, switch situation from utg to button, and full steam ahead.

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That stack of 2200 shouldn't scare you, he's not calling light.
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Old 09-13-2005, 05:08 PM
zambonidrivr zambonidrivr is offline
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Default Re: Bubble aggression maybe taken too far.

alright, maybe i need to loosen up a bit. i will be testing this out tonight, and will report back.
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Old 09-13-2005, 05:26 PM
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Default Re: Bubble aggression maybe taken too far.

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That stack of 2200 shouldn't scare you, he's not calling light.

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You are missing something. You've got the big stack and your best chance of finishing first is keeping the heat on in this nearly ideal bubble spot. I finish fourth very rarely in this spot.

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I would say for the 2200 stack or the other short stacks, best chance of finishing first (or even ITM) is calling the bully big stack, who's pushing/betting standards are much wider. if they think the big stack is pushing any2.

Edit: for the 1st hands, with 2.4BB (SB) and 4.5BB(BB) left, they would call the UTG push with any reasonable hands (a2+ /QT+/22+).
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Old 09-13-2005, 05:40 PM
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Default Hand one and the 85o in particular

It's not an ideal bubble situation for a few reasons. One is that the short stack is not short enough to make the other stacks feel like they are guaranteed ITM. Another is that you are not a big enough stack that you can take a hit without becoming a short stack. Third reason is that it is a $22 and people will call with shiite, because, hey it's only $20.

I am SNG powertool-less at the moment, but can someone show me the 85o hand is +$EV without telling me that a typical $22er will fold something like 77 or AJ? (very often worse hands will call)
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Old 09-13-2005, 05:44 PM
zambonidrivr zambonidrivr is offline
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Default Re: Bubble aggression maybe taken too far.

agreed. nj
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Old 09-13-2005, 05:46 PM
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Default Re: Bubble aggression maybe taken too far.

Fold 85, think about JTs, and push the rest.

2) Push the aces, push KQ, push the pair, fold the rest.
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Old 09-13-2005, 05:47 PM
Bill Poker Bill Poker is offline
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Default Re: Bubble aggression maybe taken too far.

agree, without any $EV calculation. I doubt pusing 85o in this situation is +$EV.

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Fold 85, think about JTs, and push the rest.

2) Push the aces, push KQ, push the pair, fold the rest.

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Old 09-13-2005, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: Bubble aggression maybe taken too far.

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think about JTs,

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if i recall my "ranking hands against likely calling hands" people put too much thought, specifically, into whether they should push JTs. meanwhile, they push Ax completely thoughtlessly. it's ironical.

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