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[bosoxfan]

My father-in -law got a bowflex and was getting rid of his old soloflex so I took it. This was about 2 years ago and I still haven't put it together.

[OrangeHeat]

Try This

I have this system. It has a rack if your into heavy free weights, a smith bar if you don't have a spotter around, and wieght stack for all your cable excercises.

Pretty much all-in-one.

Orange

Edit: I think the weight stack is an add-on option. Well worth it.

[Rev. Good Will]

stick with the meth lab... much more +EV [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[sublime]

a power rack, a few olympic bars, and the actual weights. some sort of device to do chin ups. ANYTHING else is not needed.

[prrthd]

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You need a power rack with a bar for chin-ups. You need an Olympic bar and a couple hundred pounds of weight. You need a pulley machine. The ones where you just load plates are cheaper than the ones with the weight stacks and pins. You need an adjustable incline bench for the power rack. If you have money left over buy a set of Power Block adjustable dumbells. Unless you're a monster, the 5-85 lb set will be plenty. Everything you need for about a dime.

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This is the correct answer, IMHO.

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Yup, this is the correct answer. Here is the link to the power blocks

Power Block

[Uston]

I'm thinking that a lot of the posters talking about using a Smith machine because of safety issues might not know what a power rack is.



By setting the pins in the right spot it's pretty hard to hurt yourself by failing on a rep.

Smith machines are horrible. Having the weight stabilized is counter-productive, as it limits the number of muscle fibers used and will make stabilizing muscles comparitively weaker over time.

[gvibes]

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I'm thinking that a lot of the posters talking about using a Smith machine because of safety issues might not know what a power rack is.



By setting the pins in the right spot it's pretty hard to hurt yourself by failing on a rep.

Smith machines are horrible. Having the weight stabilized is counter-productive, as it limits the number of muscle fibers used and will make stabilizing muscles comparitively weaker over time.

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I agree. I have a hard time seeing how you could hurt yourself doing a squat in a squat rack (ie getting an injury you wouldn't have gotten if there were a spotter there).

Now, if you don't know how to do squats, that's a whole nothing problem.

[sublime]

Smith machines are horrible. Having the weight stabilized is counter-productive, as it limits the number of muscle fibers used and will make stabilizing muscles comparitively weaker over time.

never mind the limitations it has in building muscles, it will destroy your body after extended use.

[OrangeHeat]

I use mine for heavy shrugs thats about it. The rest is dumbells (5's- 125's).

I like the cables att. for pulldowns.

Dumbells are even better than bar. Your forced to use even more muscles to stabilize them. Two 90 lb. dumbells is a lot different than 180 on a bar.

Depends on what ur after. Bodybuilding I would go with dumbells - strength bar would be a better start.

Orange

[ChicagoTroy]

This is the correct answer, but not the right price. I just bought a rack, power bar, and 600 lbs. of plates for < $500.