Passive river donk 10/20

JrJordan · #1 10-06-2005, 01:30 AM

Villain is fairly loose passive, lots of cold calling and the sorts. Saw him c/r one turn with a big hand, so he's not bluffing too often from my limited experience.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

River: (5.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero...

Haven't seen a donk bet from him yet. There enough value to raise here? Possible a K or lower 2 pair bets here (I don't think this player would c/r the turn with a low 2pair). If I raise, and he 3bets it's a pretty easy laydown for me. There's also probably no more than a 5% chance he'll fold to a raise after betting out.

RAAAAIIIISSSEEE? or call?

wackjob · #2 10-06-2005, 01:34 AM

Call and curse.

Digs · #3 10-06-2005, 01:38 AM

With your read I raise. My standard is call here fwiw though.

#4 10-06-2005, 01:56 AM

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Possible a K or lower 2 pair bets here (I don't think this player would c/r the turn with a low 2pair).

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The only lower 2 pair on the turn is Q9. All others make a full house on the river.

Just call. Usually, Loose/Passive = Trip 7s.

Surfbullet · #5 10-06-2005, 02:22 AM

K9 also makes a lower 2p, both possible candidates. Also, this type of villain will often play a K this way (maybe even AK) wanting to make sure a bet goes in on the river...kind of an instintive WA/WB line that is being misapplied.

I raise.

In the esteemed words of jason_t (and b_dids thereafter) (to paraphrase):

gggggggrrrrrrrrraa 2+2 AGGROmElike hand NoCALL...RAAAiiiisEAAaaaaAAwwwnRRGH!!!!

Honestly given your stipulations - easy fold to 3bet, he wont fold worse hands - this is a pretty easy raise IMO.

Surf

Kyle · #6 10-06-2005, 02:26 AM

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Honestly given your stipulations - easy fold to 3bet, he wont fold worse hands - this is a pretty easy raise IMO.

Surf

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joker122 · #7 10-06-2005, 02:33 AM

and you like never get 3bet anyway.

#8 10-06-2005, 03:13 AM

I missed the K9 somehow. Even so, we hear from a lower 2 pr earlier and usually a king as well. Don't you think a LPP would have donked the flop or the turn with either of those holdings? Not saying always, just playing devil's advocate.

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I missed the K9 somehow.

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