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Old 10-11-2005, 12:48 AM
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Default Why limit instead of no limit?

hey everyone, I am relatively new to the poker scene and the experienced player that is somewhat mentoring me is a solid limit player (winning online $30-$60). He has urged me to get into poker, low limit hold'em to be more exact. I have done so, and feel I am learning at a reasonable rate. I have another friend that is one of those loud mouths that claim to be earning $100 an hour single tabling the $1-$2 no limit tables. This guy claims that no limit is where the money is. I want to tell him to F off, but I am too kind. So I ask the group, is there any truth to the statement that low no limit is "easier" money than limit. What will make me a better player in the long run... a mixture of both?

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-Shaggy
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Old 10-11-2005, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: Why limit instead of no limit?

Try both out and see which one you enjoy/win at most.
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Old 10-11-2005, 01:08 AM
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Default Re: Why limit instead of no limit?

nobody is making 100$/hr one-tabling 1-2$ NL.
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Old 10-11-2005, 01:10 AM
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Default Re: Why limit instead of no limit?

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hey everyone, I am relatively new to the poker scene and the experienced player that is somewhat mentoring me is a solid limit player (winning online $30-$60). He has urged me to get into poker, low limit hold'em to be more exact. I have done so, and feel I am learning at a reasonable rate. I have another friend that is one of those loud mouths that claim to be earning $100 an hour single tabling the $1-$2 no limit tables. This guy claims that no limit is where the money is. I want to tell him to F off, but I am too kind. So I ask the group, is there any truth to the statement that low no limit is "easier" money than limit. What will make me a better player in the long run... a mixture of both?

Thanks all,
-Shaggy

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Winrates are generally higher at no limit, but it's harder to multi-table. I'm not going to bother going to explain details in thread with a general question. Seriously, I hate this question. All games are profitable, the most profitable form is the one that fits your persona the best most the time. I just had a hard time putting in hours at no limit and I found it more stressfull which caused me to either quit while I was ahead because the stress was over, or quit when I was behind because I was stressed out.

I primarily play limit now because I find it much less stressfull, I have little difficulty in mutlitabling, and I can play without caring about the results of any hand for hours on end. Players need to find what game suits them best. If I don't see any good limit games and there are good NL games I have no trouble switching. Though I strongly discourage playing NL and Limit on seperate tables.
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Old 10-11-2005, 01:18 AM
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nobody is making 100$/hr one-tabling 1-2$ NL.

[/ QUOTE ] That much I know. My presumption is that NL is more volatile than limit. Is this a correct statement?
I know what it takes to earn money in gaming, grinding out small edges, with lots of volatility. I come from a serious blackjack background, where a $5000 bank is required to earn $25 an hour. I know what it takes to earn money with small edges. I want to get into something that will allow me to earn some money on a daily or weekly basis when i am not on one of my once a month blackjack trips. Since I am just getting started I want to get into the right game. So which is it, limit or NL.

I understand solid limit $2-$4 play will earn approx $8 per 100 hands... roughly $16 an hour 2-Tabling (all i am capable of doing so far). will NL earn a solid player more than that with the same or less volatility? this is assuming I were a solid player, which I will be some day, but I am not yet.

Thanks again for the help
-Shaggy
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Old 10-11-2005, 01:20 AM
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Default Re: Why limit instead of no limit?

Great piece of advice, thank you.
-Shaggy
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Old 10-11-2005, 01:28 AM
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Default Re: Why limit instead of no limit?

In general it is said that NL has lower variance than limit, but as far as winrates are concerned I'm not sure what a solid figure is.
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Old 10-11-2005, 01:30 AM
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Default Re: Why limit instead of no limit?

All of this is covered in the various FAQs on the site, but some quick answers.

NL normally has less variance than Limit because it is easier for a better player to use their advantage than in limit, where the betting structure allows much more luck. However, this does not mean NL is a better game for you or me, it is just a different game.

And 2BB/100 multitabling $2/$4 is not at all difficult to achieve if you study limit hold'em.
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Old 10-11-2005, 03:12 AM
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Default Re: Why limit instead of no limit?

2BB/100 is not the same as 2bb/hr because a lot of tables run at less than 100 hands/hr.
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Old 10-11-2005, 07:10 AM
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Default Re: Why limit instead of no limit?

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That much I know. My presumption is that NL is more volatile than limit. Is this a correct statement?


I understand solid limit $2-$4 play will earn approx $8 per 100 hands... roughly $16 an hour 2-Tabling (all i am capable of doing so far). will NL earn a solid player more than that with the same or less volatility? this is assuming I were a solid player, which I will be some day, but I am not yet.

Thanks again for the help
-Shaggy

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1. You will experiance greater varience playing limit than NL.

2. You cant play 200 hands an hour ($8/100 hands| $16/hr) only 2 tabling unless you are playing very short handed.
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