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Old 06-07-2005, 01:50 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default another early TPNK hand

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (8 handed) converter

UTG (t1000)
UTG+1 (t1955)
MP1 (t440)
MP2 (t845)
CO (t1495)
Hero (t770)
SB (t740)
BB (t755)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t15, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls t15, Hero calls t15, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t60</font>, SB folds, BB calls t60, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t120</font>, Hero folds,

folding preflop seems too tight. do you agree?
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Old 06-07-2005, 01:55 PM
Lady Dont Tekno Lady Dont Tekno is offline
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Default Re: another early TPNK hand

I don't have any math to back it up but I wouldn't be surprised if over 90% of your EV comes from late game when the blinds are 50/100+. SNGs become push-fests later on so the few chips you'd win from this hand are essentially meaningless. Why risk it? Usually I'd fold this.

However you got da button, so depending on my mood I might play this from time to time. And then I'd play it the same on the flop, maybe a slightly larger bet. Good fold.

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Old 06-07-2005, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: another early TPNK hand

I fold preflop.
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Old 06-07-2005, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: another early TPNK hand


I think the hand was fine, I like folding to the checkraise also. I think calling preflop is fine but so is folding.
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Old 06-07-2005, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: another early TPNK hand

The PF call is fine imo. But I think CO just semi bluffed you off the best hand.
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Old 06-07-2005, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: another early TPNK hand

As you're seeing, the standard mindset around here is to play extremely tight preflop in the first 2 levels, especially in an 800 chip game. I go back and forth on my own play, trying to find the right mix. Currently, i'm in a loosen up phase at the 55 level with 200 more chips.

I think this hand is fine. I'll play QT here sometimes and fold sometimes depending upon my mood. This is on the borderline for me, but I like playing hands on the button. The suited ace hand, I fold preflop in MP.

Yah, you've gotta fold to the flop c/r.
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Old 06-07-2005, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: another early TPNK hand

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The PF call is fine imo. But I think CO just semi bluffed you off the best hand.

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It doesn't matter, he has to fold. That's why semi-bluffs work. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] That's also why you could argue for a check here. OP's hand really isn't strong enough to be protecting against free cards.
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Old 06-07-2005, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: another early TPNK hand

You should actually play tighter preflop in the $55's, not looser. Irieguy explained this long ago, here's a quote from one of his posts, which I agree with:

When players move up to the levels where they get 1000 starting chips, they accidentally play better. They aren't used to having that many chips, so it takes them longer to get desperate. They play tighter for longer... which is correct. At the lower limits, a player can lose a hand and be down to 595 chips early. They get desperate/nervous and decide to just call all-in with Q-9s in level 1. At the higher limits, the same player can lose a hand early and still have 800 chips... which he's used to starting with. So he doesn't get desperate and therefore plays better. This is why the $55's are harder to beat than the $33's... more so than because of any increase in skill level.
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Old 06-07-2005, 02:26 PM
Lady Dont Tekno Lady Dont Tekno is offline
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Default that\'s a hot post n/c

n/c

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Old 06-07-2005, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: another early TPNK hand


Thats most insane thing Ive ever heard!!!!
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