Play from the blinds: Q5o

[Scuba Chuck]

BB is a 2+2er, and knows that I am too.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB (t600) <font color="white"> Ac Ad </font>
UTG (t620)
UTG+1 (t1085)
MP1 (t1715)
MP2 (t695)
CO (t1755)
Button (t480)
Hero (t1050)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t60) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t55</font>, BB calls t55.

Turn: (t170) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t105</font>, Hero calls t105.

River: (t380) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t215</font>, Hero calls t215.

Final Pot: t810

[pineapple888]

You took your shot on the flop and it didn't work. Why would you put any more money in?

[ZeroPointMachine]

I hate everything about this hand. The only thing you beat is complete air or a 3? How does completing because it only costs 15t and pouring 375t in with 2PBK make sense in a 800 chip SNG?

[pooh74]

By checking the turn, BB can/will assume that you bet the flop with nothing so you are basically giving him free reign often to just take the pot away from you. Firing a second barrel here is also risky because he know the A can scare you off easily (though, what's he checking PF with that cold calls this flop and is helped by the Ace with?). So I feel your pain on the turn, but I probably fire again.

The river is a great card because I think the 6 protects you more times than it helps villain, so if you were worried about the Q with the better kicker or the Q3 possibilities, you are now off the hook, so to speak. I think you win/chop this pot far more often than you lose it outright. Check call on river looks good.

[downtown]

[ QUOTE ]
BB is a 2+2er, and knows that I am too.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB (t600) <font color="white"> Ac Ad </font>
UTG (t620)
UTG+1 (t1085)
MP1 (t1715)
MP2 (t695)
CO (t1755)
Button (t480)
Hero (t1050)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t60) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t55</font>, BB calls t55.

Turn: (t170) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t105</font>, Hero calls t105.

River: (t380) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t215</font>, Hero calls t215.

Final Pot: t810

[/ QUOTE ]

Personally I would fold preflop. If I decided to mix it up, I would lead the fop and turn for 3/4 pot of so, and if I were called again on the turn, I would ask myself with what hands that I beat does a short stacked 2+2er call/raise (depending on action) with little or no FE. Then I would shut down quick like and check/fold the river.

I've also made the mistake of getting FPS when in a hand with a 2+2er, and this is a lot what it looks like. And it isn't pretty.

[lacky]

again, try not to give up the lead in a hand. when you check the turn, you are saying "I dont have an A, hell, I might not of had anything and was hoping to steal, but i'm gonna give up now" so then his turn bet doesnt mean anything either. I'm guessing he bet the turn hoping you would fold, the hit his pair of 6's on the river. But, your check on the turn makes harder to know where you stand.

[Scuba Chuck]

[ QUOTE ]
again, try not to give up the lead in a hand. when you check the turn, you are saying "I dont have an A, hell, I might not of had anything and was hoping to steal, but i'm gonna give up now" so then his turn bet doesnt mean anything either. I'm guessing he bet the turn hoping you would fold, the hit his pair of 6's on the river. But, your check on the turn makes harder to know where you stand.

[/ QUOTE ]

So what's a better line? Again, assume one it's an unknown, and second, assume it's the 2er.

[lacky]

I would bet the turn, 2/3 pot or so, if raised by a solid conservative player, I'd fold. If called by a solid conservative player, I'd check the river, and hopefully have them check behind, but more likely have to fold to their bet.

Against a loose passive type player, I'd bet the turn still, and definatly fold to a raise, cause they always have you beat if they raise here, and would check fold the river as well.

If you show strength all the way and they are still there, they have you beat or they have something that they don't mind checking behind with.

so...bet the turn, then check fold the river if needed

[runner4life7]

how can you fold this from the SB? that just seems so wrong.

[adanthar]

I would raise PF because he's 2+2. The rest looks good.