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Old 08-14-2005, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: Calling a river overbet?

Thanks I will incorporate the addition of a BB per limper and one for position. I just noticed that the preflop raise is .65. That is odd as I clicked .75 but forgot I was in the SB. That says alot for my table awareness lol.
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Old 08-14-2005, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: Calling a river overbet?

so we charge inadequetly for the draw then we pay off like a jackpot when it hits?

I hate turn bet.
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Old 08-14-2005, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: Calling a river overbet?

amoeba-
Would you bet more on the turn or check? Why?
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Old 08-14-2005, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: Calling a river overbet?

check. the bet will only get called by hands that beat you.

at least the check will induce some bluffs.
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Old 08-14-2005, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: Calling a river overbet?

So if I check and he bets then what? That card is scary and while it is scary for me it also could be scary for him. I felt like checking would cede the hand right there. It seems my aggresion is not only too weak but also misplaced.
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Old 08-14-2005, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: Calling a river overbet?

if you think your hand is good call, if you don't think its good fold. also he might check behind so pot isn't inflated.

betting because you don't know whether your hand is good or not is dumb because he isn't folding the flush and hes folding everything you beat.
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Old 08-14-2005, 02:15 PM
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Default Re: Calling a river overbet?

u need a read at the turn. i like check/call-block river
or if it checks through to check/call the river.
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Old 08-14-2005, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: Calling a river overbet?

At this level, I like to raise 4xBB +1BB per limper. Seems to work pretty well.
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Old 08-14-2005, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: Calling a river overbet?

Thanks to everyone for all the wisdom.
Here is an example where the result was good but my play was bad.
I knew that even though I won the hand(he showed KJo) I played it poorly.
Well, back to the tables.
Getting lucky like I did is nice but I would rather play well.
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Old 08-14-2005, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: Calling a river overbet?

I think he probably made his flush and then put in the standard overbet that a lot of 25NL players tend to make recently with a big hand as an attempt to represent a huge bluff and get called by a weak hand such as TP or an overpair. I fold this 95% of the time unless the villan has taken the last 5 pots down with big river bets on a passive table and is beginning to think that betting big automatically wins the pot. oh ye......raise more Preflop, hate to say it again but that bet is flimsy. standard bet at 25NL should be 4BB or more depending upon how many limpers there are and how loose the table is. If I bet 65c I reckon I'd get 5 calls and someone would turn over a 84s for a flush or a filthy little 2 pair because 65c wouldnt make them lay down 72o preflop. You dont want to play this against more than 1 or 2 opponents IMO
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