AKo played right against limp/raiser? Party 25NL

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP3 ($25.90)
CO ($18.25)
Button ($27.40)
SB ($24.75)
BB ($34.23)
UTG ($24.50)
UTG+1 ($31.95)
Hero ($23.50)
MP2 ($63.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $4</font>, Hero calls $2.50.

Flop: ($8.35) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $6</font>, I push all in remaining stack, UTG calls $13.50.

Turn: ($27.85) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($27.85) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $27.85

[beavens]

probably going up against AA

[the machine]

i like it at this limit because i find qq come up here as much as aa, for some reason at 25NL people cant throw away qq when an over card hits. possible chop even. think its good

yeah good point by other poster, i do fold more times then not ak to a utg limp raise but since you decided to play it i like what you did. IMO

[Allinlife]

gotta fold ak to limp raises

[CaptainNoBeard]

muck that preflop to the limp-reraise. seems weak tight, but its right.

[amoeba]

fold preflop.

2/3 of the time you don't flop anything and you have to fold to his flop bet, 1/3 the time you flop it but a portion of that 1/3 he has you dominated even when you flopped it.

think about how wide villain's range for limp reraising has to be to make the preflop call profitable.

hint : it has to be wider than AA-JJ, AK.

[scdavis0]

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fold preflop.

2/3 of the time you don't flop anything and you have to fold to his flop bet, 1/3 the time you flop it but a portion of that 1/3 he has you dominated even when you flopped it.

think about how wide villain's range for limp reraising has to be to make the preflop call profitable.

hint : it has to be wider than AA-JJ, AK.

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Not if he'll call off his whole stack when you out flop him.

I posted a hand just like this a while ago. Almost exactly the same, just I pushed the turn and was shown AA (had deeper stacks). I think your only two options on the flop are to either fold or go all in. With his big bet, Im inclined to think he has JJ,QQ.

[ajmargarine]

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for some reason at 25NL people cant throw away 99 on an AKQ flop.

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[amoeba]

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fold preflop.

2/3 of the time you don't flop anything and you have to fold to his flop bet, 1/3 the time you flop it but a portion of that 1/3 he has you dominated even when you flopped it.

think about how wide villain's range for limp reraising has to be to make the preflop call profitable.

hint : it has to be wider than AA-JJ, AK.

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Not if he'll call off his whole stack when you out flop him.

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this is very rarely the case and you don't outflop him and win at showdown very often.

I will do a rough calculation. 1/3 of the time we flop a pair. assuming his range is AA-JJ, AK. lets remove AK for the benefit of this discussion. due to you holding AK, its more likely for villain to hold QQ, JJ. we'll say 75% o the time he has QQ, JJ. as been rigorously analyzed in the Mason thread in MHNL, the times you flop a pair without him flopping a set is about 29%. the times you flop a pair and he doesn't set by the river is 26%. you take the 26% and multiply by the the 75% that he actually has QQ, JJ and you get roughly 19.5 %.

so 19.5% of the time you win his stack, 67% of the time you check fold the flop, and the rest you lose your stack.

preflop is a fold.