AK Help

#1 12-19-2005, 08:06 PM

So hows my line here? i know that if i was going to call the flop i shouldnt have folded the turn, but i just wanted to see what he would have done. Is my fold correct? no reads.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB ($29.46)
BB ($32.85)
UTG ($44.08)
MP ($48.10)
CO ($103.85)
Hero ($52.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $4.55, UTG raises to $9.1, Hero calls $4.55.

Turn: ($22.95) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $15, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $37.95

Vitaliy · #2 12-19-2005, 08:17 PM

First - I'm struggling with AK too. But here is what I think about this hand: he limped from UTG, flop is 55K is one of the best flops I can imagine for AK. I'd be aggressive on the flop and respond to his reraise on the flop with a push. KQ and KJ are likely holdings...

DJ Sensei · #3 12-19-2005, 08:19 PM

I think this line is alright. If the turn was a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], an A, or a low brick, I'd be more inclined to continue with the hand. If villain is getting cute with a worse pair of kings, his most likely kicker just paired.

#4 12-19-2005, 08:21 PM

Tough hand. But I think you played it right.

4_2_it · #5 12-19-2005, 08:22 PM

You already figured this one out: It's raise or fold on the flop. With no reads I can make a compelling argument for either. I usually pop it back to about $20 and fold if he comes back over the top.

ajmargarine · #6 12-19-2005, 08:22 PM

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So hows my line here? i know that if i was going to call the flop i shouldnt have folded the turn

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Asked and answered IMO.

Bet a tad more preflop. Normal PFR is $2, no? So add a limper tax to that.

Vitaliy · #7 12-19-2005, 09:03 PM

Do you think it was played right on the flop? Hero pot bet the flop - could be interpreted as CB. Then showed signs of weaknes to a raise. Why not reraise on the flop? Are you afraid of 5 or KK here? May be I am missing something though.

Maulik · #8 12-19-2005, 10:30 PM

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So hows my line here? i know that if i was going to call the flop i shouldnt have folded the turn, but i just wanted to see what he would have done. Is my fold correct? no reads.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB ($29.46)
BB ($32.85)
UTG ($44.08)
MP ($48.10)
CO ($103.85)
Hero ($52.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $4.55, UTG raises to $9.1, Hero calls $4.55.

Turn: ($22.95) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $15, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $37.95

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Well, I'd agree with your thinking. Probably should have seen the river. Nonetheless, I think he’s consistently telling you he can beat your Kings up. You’re reevaluation looks good.

 edit: make it $3 to go every time, PF.

Maulik · #9 12-19-2005, 10:31 PM

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You already figured this one out: It's raise or fold on the flop. With no reads I can make a compelling argument for either. I usually pop it back to about $20 and fold if he comes back over the top.

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Hmm, I think re-raising double isn't good. Furthermore, I don't think most villains would shove it all-in on the flop if they had the five. They'd get it in on the turn and at which point it would be incorrect to fold.

4_2_it · #10 12-19-2005, 10:45 PM

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You already figured this one out: It's raise or fold on the flop. With no reads I can make a compelling argument for either. I usually pop it back to about $20 and fold if he comes back over the top.

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Hmm, I think re-raising double isn't good. Furthermore, I don't think most villains would shove it all-in on the flop if they had the five. They'd get it in on the turn and at which point it would be incorrect to fold.

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If he's limping UTG with a 5 and then calling raises I like my chances of getting my money back with interest [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

That's why I don't mind staying aggressive. I think you can play this hand just like you would play AA and you aren't folding AA to a raise here.