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Once again, just fastplay your monster hands (low content)
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, Button calls. Flop: (8 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, Button calls. Turn: (5.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Button calls. River: (8.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls. Final Pot: 14.50 BB Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> Hero has Qs Qd (four of a kind, queens). UTG+1 has Jh Kh (flush, king high). Outcome: Hero wins 14.50 BB. </font> |
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Re: Once again, just fastplay your monster hands (low content)
I like that hand. Are you suggesting that a check raise be reserved for when your hand is somewhat marginal only? Just wondering.
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Re: Once again, just fastplay your monster hands (low content)
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I like that hand. Are you suggesting that a check raise be reserved for when your hand is somewhat marginal only? Just wondering. [/ QUOTE ] A check/raise should be when you have a clear and intended purpose to check/raise. You shouldn't go for a check/raise with a monster hand because it looks cool on TV. Me going for the check/raise here is silly, I'm the aggressor and therefore the most likely to bet the flop. As you can see here, I lost no value betting the flop. |
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Re: Once again, just fastplay your monster hands (low content)
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You shouldn't go for a check/raise with a monster hand because it looks cool on TV. [/ QUOTE ] I don't usually laugh out loud when I read things online, but this made me laugh out loud. [ QUOTE ] Me going for the check/raise here is silly, I'm the aggressor and therefore the most likely to bet the flop. As you can see here, I lost no value betting the flop. [/ QUOTE ] I second this in this hand and the overall notion. |
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Re: Once again, just fastplay your monster hands (low content)
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[ QUOTE ] You shouldn't go for a check/raise with a monster hand because it looks cool on TV. [/ QUOTE ] I don't usually laugh out loud when I read things online, but this made me laugh out loud. [/ QUOTE ] In all seriousness there seems to be a trend with newer limit players when they flop a monster hand to go for the check/raise because they think that'll get the most money in the pot. But without a clear reason why, it ends up costing getting less money in the end. Edit - for clarity |
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Re: Once again, just fastplay your monster hands (low content)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] You shouldn't go for a check/raise with a monster hand because it looks cool on TV. [/ QUOTE ] I don't usually laugh out loud when I read things online, but this made me laugh out loud. [/ QUOTE ] In all seriousness there seems to be a trend with newer limit players when they flop a monster hand to go for the check/raise because they think that'll get the most money in the pot. But without a clear reason why, it ends up costing more money in the end. [/ QUOTE ] yep everything you do at the table should have a reason nice hand |
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Re: Once again, just fastplay your monster hands (low content)
I think part of the reason why lot new players love the check-raise is they started to play Texas holdem as NL game at home or watching on TV.
In No limit this monster needs to be slowed play hoping to convince someone when make possible Str8 or Flush that they have best hand and you can make big bet or have them make big bet in to you. In limit you need to push. Players are going to call if they have pair or draw and fold if they have nothing (Well sometimes.) This is one of my biggest leaks at times. Becuse I play both games. Mostly Limt but NL Tournment twice month to keep what little skill I have there in tact. |
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Re: Once again, just fastplay your monster hands (low content)
I'm not trying to dissent to this hand in particular, but there are plenty of cases where slowplaying monster hands is appropriate.
If faking weakness on the flop succesfully allows you to to get another bet in on the turn/river, then the slowplay has succeeded. Now, it is difficult to decide exactly where this is appropriate, and not every situation calls for a slowplay. But some do. |
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