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12-16-2005, 05:35 PM
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($22): Hands like these are embarrassing!
Do you push this, or wait and pray for something a little better UTG? Up to this point I have had exactly zero chances to push.
PartyPoker - NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Tournament | Level: 5 - 6 players (Converter: PGC) Chip Counts: Button: 740 Chips SB: 2645 Chips BB: 1110 Chips UTG: 2015 Chips <font color="red">Hero: 495 Chips</font> CO: 995 Chips Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Blinds are 75/150 PreFlop <font color="blue">UTG folds</font>, Hero ????… 
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#3
12-16-2005, 06:00 PM
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Re: ($22): Hands like these are embarrassing!
push.
You already have no FE, but J3s with one player already folded is good enough for me.
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#4
12-16-2005, 06:09 PM
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Re: ($22): Hands like these are embarrassing!
Tigerite, you were right. I was going on memory, but in the orbit before this one I missed a few opportunities.
This one was close: PartyPoker - NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Tournament | Level: 4 - 6 players (Converter: PGC) Chip Counts: Button: 1220 Chips SB: 1315 Chips BB: 1520 Chips UTG: 1110 Chips UTG+1: 1000 Chips UTG+2: 1265 Chips <font color="red">Hero: 570 Chips</font> Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Blinds are 50/100 PreFlop BB posts BB, <font color="blue">UTG folds</font>, <font color="blue">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="blue">UTG+2 folds</font>, <font color="blue">Hero folds</font>… PartyPoker - NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Tournament | Level: 5 - 6 players (Converter: PGC) Chip Counts: Button: 1265 Chips SB: 1570 Chips BB: 1110 Chips UTG: 1000 Chips UTG+1: 1265 Chips <font color="red">Hero: 570 Chips</font> CO: 1220 Chips Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Blinds are 75/150 PreFlop BB posts BB, <font color="blue">UTG folds</font>, <font color="blue">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="blue">Hero folds</font>… I didn’t push this one because the SB had just been eliminated, so there wasn’t a SB to pick up and the BB was going to miss me next hand. Stupid? PartyPoker - NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Tournament | Level: 5 - 6 players (Converter: PGC) Chip Counts: Button: 1110 Chips BB: 1265 Chips <font color="red">Hero: 570 Chips</font> UTG: 1220 Chips UTG+1: 1265 Chips CO: 2570 Chips Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Blinds are 75/150 PreFlop <font color="blue">Hero folds</font>… This was followed by pre-flop raises on every hand except the one I posted in the OP. But, what about the hand? Should I take a chance and push over with this? PartyPoker - NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Tournament | Level: 5 - 6 players (Converter: PGC) Chip Counts: <font color="red">Hero: 495 Chips</font> SB: 1070 Chips BB: 965 Chips UTG: 2795 Chips UTG+1: 1110 Chips CO: 1565 Chips Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Blinds are 75/150 PreFlop <font color="blue">UTG folds</font>, <font color="blue">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="red">CO RAISES ($300)</font>, <font color="blue">Hero ????</font>…
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#5
12-16-2005, 06:18 PM
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Re: ($22): Hands like these are embarrassing!
Have to push here with anything but total trash.
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#6
12-16-2005, 06:38 PM
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Re: ($22): Hands like these are embarrassing!
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Hero has 570t Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Blinds are 75/150 [/ QUOTE ] The rest are close depending on your reads/ranges. This one is automatic though. You have less than 4BB and are paying the BB next hand. This makes the true EV of folding much worse than in other positions. Edit: Pushing the J3 is correct when you find yourself in that position. It could have been avoided here.
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#7
12-16-2005, 06:51 PM
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Re: ($22): Hands like these are embarrassing!
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You have less than 4BB and are paying the BB next hand. This makes the true EV of folding much worse than in other positions. [/ QUOTE ] Actually, the SB was eliminated the hand before this one, so I'm in the SB next hand, this change anything?
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#8
12-16-2005, 06:59 PM
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Re: ($22): Hands like these are embarrassing!
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[ QUOTE ] You have less than 4BB and are paying the BB next hand. This makes the true EV of folding much worse than in other positions. [/ QUOTE ] Actually, the SB was eliminated the hand before this one, so I'm in the SB next hand, this change anything? [/ QUOTE ] Yes it does. I push less hands in this situation. A9 is still a good hand with less than 4BB though.
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#9
12-16-2005, 07:00 PM
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Re: ($22): Hands like these are embarrassing!
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Yes, I push. It sounds unusual that you had had no chances to push before this though? [/ QUOTE ] i was thinking that too...the only reason for this to happen is if you just lost a hand to get yourself in this position. And yes, you have to push this, IMO
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#10
12-16-2005, 07:02 PM
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Re: ($22): Hands like these are embarrassing!
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[ QUOTE ] You have less than 4BB and are paying the BB next hand. This makes the true EV of folding much worse than in other positions. [/ QUOTE ] Actually, the SB was eliminated the hand before this one, so I'm in the SB next hand, this change anything? [/ QUOTE ] I dont think it does, you gotta push here.
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