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Old 10-23-2005, 11:37 AM
Cassidy Cassidy is offline
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Default $11 - Push With 88?

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#Game No : 2861340053
***** Hand History for Game 2861340053 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:16478776 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Sunday, October 23, 10:13:16 EDT 2005
Table Table 35064 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: ina007 ( $2010 )
Seat 4: Montyw ( $1435 )
Seat 5: Cassidy ( $925 )
Seat 7: esalvador ( $2385 )
Seat 9: USS_Banana ( $445 )
Seat 10: dollocks ( $800 )
Trny:16478776 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Cassidy [ 8c 8h ]
USS_Banana folds
dollocks calls [150]
ina007 calls [150]
Montyw folds
Cassidy is all-In [850]
esalvador is all-In [2235]
dollocks folds.
ina007 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2d, Kc, 7s ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jc ]
** Dealing River ** [ Td ]
Cassidy shows [ 8c, 8h ] a pair of eights.
esalvador shows [ Kd, Ah ] a pair of kings.
esalvador wins 1460 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of kings.
esalvador wins 2150 chips from the main pot with a pair of kings.

With 2 limpers and a bit of FE I decided to push here. I couldn't recall the players making sneaky limps with big hands or making loose calls so I figured a sizable push had a good chance of seeing them fold. I had been reasonably tight and this was my first all-in move so I hoped that might make a fold from the limpers more likely.

My other concern was that the big stack would wake up with a hand he could call with but with the blinds at 150/75 and increasing to 200/100 by the time they hit me again I felt that I had to do something to get chips or risk being blinded out of the game.

Was this a good spot for a push or would limping have been a better line to take?
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Old 10-23-2005, 12:17 PM
arcticfox arcticfox is offline
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Default Re: $11 - Push With 88?

With under 6x the BB and potentially some dead money in the pot this is a really easy push. Its a push even without the dead money BTW!
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Old 10-23-2005, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: $11 - Push With 88?

Yeah, it's a push. In an average game, I'd probably push any pocket pair of 44 and up here.
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Old 10-23-2005, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: $11 - Push With 88?

Thanks for the feedback guys, much appreciated.
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Old 10-23-2005, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: $11 - Push With 88?

Gotta look to make some sort of move before the next waive of blinds hits you. not to likely that you will find a better hand to push. gotta do it and just hope for the best.
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Old 10-23-2005, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: $11 - Push With 88?

I'm pretty tight when it comes to pushing often on this forum, but this is so easy a push. I wouldn't even think twice. Most times you won't be called by the idiot to act after you (and hell even if he does call, there's no range he can call with that makes it -EV) and the vast majority of the time, all the limpers will fold. If they had a real hand, they'd have raised themselves. Pick up them chips.

Oh yeah and when one does call you're rarely an underdog anyway, unless some kook has limped 99, or perhaps TT (unlikely).
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Old 10-23-2005, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: $11 - Push With 88?

Good push, bad result.
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Old 10-23-2005, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: $11 - Push With 88?

This is a very easy push in my opinion. You're short stacked, you almost certainly have the best hand, there's a lot of potential dead money in the pot, and you have fold equity.
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