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Old 10-23-2005, 11:31 AM
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Default umm...ok, guess I\'ll fold my queens?

Just happened on UB $.5/1NL 9 handed

Villain 3 $40.95.
Hero $139.95.
Villain 1 $18.50.
Villain 2 with $47.50.

Hero: Qd Qh

Pre-flop:
1 fold Hero raises to $4. Villain 1 goes all-in for $18.50 . 2 folds. Villain 2 calls. 1 fold. Villain 3 calls. 1 fold. hero ???

Results to come after some responses

No real reads on any of villains, just sat down a little while ago. Villain #2 seems a bit loose pf, no other reads.
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Old 10-23-2005, 12:05 PM
iceman5 iceman5 is offline
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Default Re: umm...ok, guess I\'ll fold my queens?

I reraise all in. Your not going to be the favorite to win the hand most times (meaning you wont win more than 50% of the time), but it should be a hugely +EV situation.

Most likely its going to be a 4 way all in for a huge pot, so you only need to win ~25% of the time or more, and theres a good chance that more than one of them has an ace or king, which kills alot of their outs. Its highly doubtful that anyone has AA or KK.
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Old 10-23-2005, 12:11 PM
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Default Re: umm...ok, guess I\'ll fold my queens?

I'm folding here, call me crazy, but I don't like to get involved in huge pots where I'm a big underdog.
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Old 10-23-2005, 12:20 PM
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Default Re: umm...ok, guess I\'ll fold my queens?

I'm with iceman. Getting three or four to one on my money all in with Queens? Lets GAMBOOOOL.
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Old 10-23-2005, 12:21 PM
CaptainNoBeard CaptainNoBeard is offline
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Default Re: umm...ok, guess I\'ll fold my queens?

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I'm folding here, call me crazy, but I don't like to get involved in huge pots where I'm a big underdog.

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hah. you so craaaazy. you have more'n enough equity in this pot to make a push profitable.

reraise all in. iceman's got it.
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Old 10-23-2005, 12:24 PM
DyessMan89 DyessMan89 is offline
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Default Re: umm...ok, guess I\'ll fold my queens?

What would Humberto do here?

ALL-INNNNNNNNNNNNN.

You have a # of things going for you ...

1. Hand strength
2. Potential fold equity
3. This is a very hefty pot.
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Old 10-23-2005, 12:29 PM
swolfe swolfe is offline
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Default Re: umm...ok, guess I\'ll fold my queens?

it's close either way, i'd fold with a read, but without one i'm leaning towards pushing. folding isn't bad either.
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Old 10-23-2005, 01:47 PM
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Default Re: umm...ok, guess I\'ll fold my queens?

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it's close either way, i'd fold with a read, but without one i'm leaning towards pushing. folding isn't bad either.

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Old 10-23-2005, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: umm...ok, guess I\'ll fold my queens?

do you really think either of the 2 cold callers are gonna fold with a pot this big with almost 1/2 thier stacks invested if i move in?...i highly doubt that, but anyway

results- Hero folds.
flop 3s 4h 8c Villain3 checks. Villain 2 checks.
Turn 3s 4h 8c Th VIllain 3 goes all-in for $22.45. Villain 2 folds.
River 3s 4h 8c Th Kc(no action in this round)
Showdown:

Villain 3 shows Ah Ac.
Villain 3 has Ah Ac 8c Th Kc: a pair of aces.
Villain 1 shows As Kd.
Villain 1 has As Kd 8c Th Kc: a pair of kings.
Hand #9174005-110 Summary:
$3 is raked from a pot of $60.50.
Villain 3 wins $57.50 with a pair of aces.

I thought if anyone was strong preflop it was villain 3, i also forgot mention that he was egging me on to push, saying "come on, reraise, reraise!!!", as I was thinking of what to do
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