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Old 10-02-2005, 08:11 PM
celiboy celiboy is offline
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Default Re: October bonuses on Multi...

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20x is a bit harsh, but I'll go for it, maybe not a full $500 in case something better comes along.

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20X is misleading since Multi's definition of a raked hand is far more liberal than most other sites. On Multi, a $1 pot counts as a raked pot. On other sites it takes a much larger pot (usually $5 but as high as $20) to count.

This makes a huge, huge difference at lower buy-ins!!

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Are you sure about this....anything under $5 has no rake so how can it possibly be considered as a "raked hand"
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Old 10-02-2005, 08:17 PM
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20x is a bit harsh, but I'll go for it, maybe not a full $500 in case something better comes along.

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20X is misleading since Multi's definition of a raked hand is far more liberal than most other sites. On Multi, a $1 pot counts as a raked pot. On other sites it takes a much larger pot (usually $5 but as high as $20) to count.

This makes a huge, huge difference at lower buy-ins!!

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Are you sure about this....anything under $5 has no rake so how can it possibly be considered as a "raked hand"

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This is true for limit games. For NL, however, the games are raked .05 of every dollar beginning at $1.
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Old 10-02-2005, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: October bonuses on Multi...

Is that .05 raked hand considered a raked hand then?
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Old 10-02-2005, 08:49 PM
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Default Re: October bonuses on Multi...

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Is that .05 raked hand considered a raked hand then?

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I just got this reply from Multi

"A raked hand is any hand in which a rake (house drop) is taken out of the pot. To accumulate raked hands, just participate in hands (any game, any limit) where a rake is taken. There is no rake taken in tournament hands, hence you cannot obtain raked hands through tournaments."

Hmmm, well my plan was to clear at .5/1 limit but with this news I'll hit up $25NL
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Old 10-02-2005, 11:02 PM
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Default Re: October bonuses on Multi...

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Is that .05 raked hand considered a raked hand then?

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I just got this reply from Multi

"A raked hand is any hand in which a rake (house drop) is taken out of the pot. To accumulate raked hands, just participate in hands (any game, any limit) where a rake is taken. There is no rake taken in tournament hands, hence you cannot obtain raked hands through tournaments."

Hmmm, well my plan was to clear at .5/1 limit but with this news I'll hit up $25NL

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Yeah if that's true then it sounds like a good time to work on my NL game. It would seem that at least 75% of your hands would be raked.
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Old 10-02-2005, 11:05 PM
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Default Re: October bonuses on Multi...

I posted a thread about this earlier today here.

From one poster's response, it seems that hands raked .10 or more in NL count as a raked hand and hands raked .05 seem to count as a partial raked hand (seems to be 1/3 - 1/2).
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Old 10-02-2005, 11:21 PM
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I just got this reply from Multi

"A raked hand is any hand in which a rake (house drop) is taken out of the pot. To accumulate raked hands, just participate in hands (any game, any limit) where a rake is taken. There is no rake taken in tournament hands, hence you cannot obtain raked hands through tournaments."


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I do not believe this answer from Multi is true. I played 1755 hands of NL25 today. PT shows that 1340 were raked, but Multi shows 1263 hands raked.

According to PT:
415 hands were not raked
312 hands were raked for $.05
1028 were raked for $.10 or more

There is a discrepency of 77 hands between PT and Multi, but 312 hands in PT that were raked less than $.10. Maybe Multi is giving partial credit for ahnds raked less than $.10.
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Old 10-02-2005, 11:49 PM
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Still around 72% raked hands. Seems pretty good for the low NL players.
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Old 10-03-2005, 01:08 AM
Joseph Busti Joseph Busti is offline
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Default Re: October bonuses on Multi...

Im getting 260 RAKED hands an hour 4 tabling 6 max NL games. Im getting close to $13 an hour from these bonuses.
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Old 10-03-2005, 01:30 AM
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If a person is already getting RB on Multipoker, are these bonuses deducted from your MGR? If so, then they're definitely not worth it to me. However, if I still got my full RB plus the bonus, then it would obviously be worthwhile.

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This isn't correct. Here's why:
suppose your rakeback percentage is 100p (so if you get 25%, p = .25). Suppose your MGR for the month is M and the theoretical bonus is B.
Rakeback alone you get M*p
Rakeback plus bonus you get B+(M-B)*p = M*p + B(1-p)

Since p < 1 you are better off in the second case.

In other words no matter what rakeback percentage you have (as long as it's less than 100% obviously) you are better off getting any bonuses that come along. I'm assuming that your bonuses are subtracted from your MGR and not your rakeback earnings, which is the case for the party skins.

In this case if you get the $500 bonus and have 25% rakeback you gain $375 by doing the promotion. If you manage the full $1500 bonus your gain over rakeback alone is $1125. If you think it's not worth it then you have a lot more money than I do.
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