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05-07-2005, 01:03 PM
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Empire is not Closing Accounts because of the Bonus
I find this very humorous. The majority concensus is that all of these account closings are due to bonus chasing. That's some paranoia. Why would they close accounts because you go after some silly $100 bonus? They are offering the bonus to get an influx of players back to the site, and to reward the regular players. The bonus is not free; you have to work for it. so if it's 1000 hands for $100 then they're paying you .10¢ a hand to shill their site. Not all players go after the bonus. I'd be willing to bet a large percentage of players don't even have the requisite buy-in to chase a bonus. This bonus whoring reason just seems so silly to me. No one can convince me that Empire cares about this.
These sites make money when they give away a bonus a far as I'm concerned. It makes no sense to close accounts for that reason. It does make sense to close accouts of those who are playing on multiple skins or from the same IP address. This seems to be the trend. Consolidation. So bonus hunters relax these are not shady online casinos but very solvent poker operations, and they don't give one whit about you silly little bonus whores. Something else is going on. 
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05-07-2005, 01:07 PM
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Re: Empire is not Closing Accounts because of the Bonus
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I find this very humorous. The majority concensus is that all of these account closings are due to bonus chasing. That's some paranoia. Why would they close accounts because you go after some silly $100 bonus? They are offering the bonus to get an influx of players back to the site, and to reward the regular players. The bonus is not free; you have to work for it. so if it's 1000 hands for $100 then they're paying you .10¢ a hand to shill their site. Not all players go after the bonus. I'd be willing to bet a large percentage of players don't even have the requisite buy-in to chase a bonus. This bonus whoring reason just seems so silly to me. No one can convince me that Empire cares about this. These sites make money when they give away a bonus a far as I'm concerned. It makes no sense to close accounts for that reason. It does make sense to close accouts of those who are playing on multiple skins or from the same IP address. This seems to be the trend. Consolidation. So bonus hunters relax these are not shady online casinos but very solvent poker operations, and they don't give one whit about you silly little bonus whores. Something else is going on. [/ QUOTE ] I would tend to agree with you, but from I can gather of those who have been closed on over at BW, they are closing accounts of those that DO NOT have gnomes or did not sign-up under an affiliate. So, I'm still under the conclusion that they are closing accounts of bonus abusers, gnomes or not, affiliates or not.
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05-07-2005, 01:10 PM
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Re: Empire is not Closing Accounts because of the Bonus
They are offering the bonus to get an influx of players back to the site, and to reward the regular players..........................That all is right but seems so far Empire make a net-profit......and now they start to loose money. Any Onlinecasino kick you out if they recognize that you are a BONUS - Abuser. I absolute understand empire if they close this 1 week 700 hand-players. I am sure earlier or later we will see more a loyalyty system like 300$ for 6000 hands.
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05-07-2005, 02:04 PM
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Re: Empire is not Closing Accounts because of the Bonus
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Something else is going on. [/ QUOTE ] Surely you must understand that someone like me (who has played every reload there for ages, playing only limit .5/1 and 1/2 limit) has cost them money? Wouldn't it make sense to get rid of accounts that have cost them money in the past and is bound to cost them money in the future? After all I have (via bonuses) been given 15 chances to become a regular player by now. Both them and I know it won't happen. My Empire account is still open, but I expect them to get to it sooner rather than later.
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05-07-2005, 02:33 PM
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Re: Empire is not Closing Accounts because of the Bonus
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These sites make money when they give away a bonus a far as I'm concerned. It makes no sense to close accounts for that reason. It does make sense to close accouts of those who are playing on multiple skins or from the same IP address. This seems to be the trend. Consolidation. [/ QUOTE ] I tend to agree that even if they lose money to certain people due to bonus-chasing, it's probably a small amount compared to their total income. Still, it's quite possible that they want to cut down on this. As to playing on multiple skins, I can't see why they (Party, since they're the basis for all the skins) would care, other than if it's costing them money. The only way I can see that costing them money is through people getting bonuses on multiple sites. In some cases, it will actually cost them money to limit people to one skin since there are players (often high volume and/or high stakes players) who play more than 4 tables and therefore need more than one skin since you can only play 4 tables per account at one time.
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05-07-2005, 02:50 PM
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Re: Empire is not Closing Accounts because of the Bonus
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[ QUOTE ] Something else is going on. [/ QUOTE ] Surely you must understand that someone like me (who has played every reload there for ages, playing only limit .5/1 and 1/2 limit) has cost them money? [/ QUOTE ] No, I don't understand this. What little bit they lose on you they make up for by having more available games. Not everyone goes for the bonus or even understands them, especially at the micro limits. The more bodies on the sites the more games they can spread. Even if it does cost them some small amount it is a loss leader. Getting people into seats is the main priority. Some of the bonus hunters might get lucky playing and stick around to play some more after the bonus expires. It's business. They're not going to offer a bonus and then close your account because you take advantage of it. But let's say they want to get rid of players who have accounts at all of the skins, or players who play multiple accounts from the same IP address, or some other such matter. Now it's only coincidental that you are also a bonus chaser. I have no idea why Empire is closing accounts. I'm 99% certain it's not because of bonus abuse. [ QUOTE ] Wouldn't it make sense to get rid of accounts that have cost them money in the past and is bound to cost them money in the future? [/ QUOTE ] I don't think it makes sense to get rid of any customers other than cheaters. All they would have to do is not offer a bonus to those they consider to be bonus abusers. If you want to play on our site fine, but we have decided to exclude you from getting any bonus offers. But they haven't done this, which leads me to believe something else is amiss. [ QUOTE ] After all I have (via bonuses) been given 15 chances to become a regular player by now. Both them and I know it won't happen. [/ QUOTE ] What does that tell you? It tells me they don't care, and if they did they would simply stop offering you bonuses. A very simple solution. [ QUOTE ] My Empire account is still open, but I expect them to get to it sooner rather than later. [/ QUOTE ] If they do they do, but I don't think it will be because of the bonus.
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