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Old 09-22-2005, 06:29 PM
TwoShedsJackson TwoShedsJackson is offline
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Default QQ versus everyone\'s favourite overcard

MP2 is 27/9/2.7 over 160 hands, the other two are your standard loose-and-passives.

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (12.00 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero??
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Old 09-22-2005, 07:09 PM
MrWookie47 MrWookie47 is offline
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Default Re: QQ versus everyone\'s favourite overcard

If folding here is a mistake, it's a very small one. And it's probably best. If not, raise. Poker sucks.
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Old 09-22-2005, 07:23 PM
benkath1 benkath1 is offline
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Default Re: QQ versus everyone\'s favourite overcard

folds. try searching for KK when an Ace flops. pretty much the same thing.

In this hand, i think there's too many cards that beat you at this point. Why proceed?

Edit: Actually I'd like a little more of a read than just numbers. Is this guy a bluffer? Would he bet this flop with 99 or 10 10? Might make it a little easier to respond with a little more information. I think a 5 is out of the question, but a smaller pocket pair could be likely. I just don't like those diamonds.
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Old 09-22-2005, 07:56 PM
TredWel TredWel is offline
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Default Re: QQ versus everyone\'s favourite overcard

I'd raise cause I'm stubborn. I'd fold if I was a good player.
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Old 09-22-2005, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: QQ versus everyone\'s favourite overcard

Do you have any other reads?

He's fairly aggressive, so why didn't he cap preflop? Smaller pair? Possible broadway? Or just position?

I might raise for information. I'd probably fold a 3 bet, but I'd like to know where I stand before the turn.

That said, I don't mind folding - it's very read dependent.
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Old 09-22-2005, 08:40 PM
Eeegah Eeegah is offline
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Default Re: QQ versus everyone\'s favourite overcard

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Do you have any other reads?

He's fairly aggressive, so why didn't he cap preflop? Smaller pair? Possible broadway? Or just position?

I might raise for information. I'd probably fold a 3 bet, but I'd like to know where I stand before the turn.

That said, I don't mind folding - it's very read dependent.

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Raising for information tells you nothing unless he 3-bets. he might call because his AJo is scared of AKs, and suck out an extra 2BB from you.
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Old 09-22-2005, 10:07 PM
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Raising for information tells you nothing unless he 3-bets.

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Agreed. Which is why it's very read dependent. Generally speaking, folding is here ok, but against an SLAA I might raise here if I thought I held the edge.
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