Should I be happy with 1.5 bb/100 at $5/10 Party game?

dantheman_05 · #1 07-21-2005, 11:13 PM

25k hands so far, vpip 22.. pfr 13..wwsf 40...wtsd 35...w$Sd 48

i know 50k hands is usually at least the standard, but talking from an overall perspective....once i have 50k hands, lets say im still at 1.5 bb/100, should i be content with that, or should i be at 2bb /100 or higher? i play 4 tables and use gametime. i am shooting for 2bb/100, but i dont know how realistic that is. my pfr is so high because i steal the blinds alot, 60%..fold bb to steal 55, vpip from sb 35

DMBFan23 · #2 07-21-2005, 11:24 PM

why would you ever stop working on your game?

Paxosmotic · #3 07-21-2005, 11:30 PM

You can either go out to 8 tables or up to 2bb/100. I think up to 2bb/100 is better for your long term play. Squeeze an extra .5 out of it, you'll be a MUCH better player for it.

dantheman_05 · #4 07-21-2005, 11:32 PM

i wont stop working on my game. i just dont know what a realistic expectation is at that limit. i am kinda beating myself up for not being at 2bb

DMBFan23 · #5 07-21-2005, 11:40 PM

eh, sample size.

plus, if you're not there and you're already winning player, you'll probably get there. be sure to enjoy the ride.

Webster · #6 07-21-2005, 11:42 PM

Satisified - yes - happy - maybe - still room for improvement but I expect 2BB/100 puts you in the top 5% of all players.

2BB/100 is very doable

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HajiShirazu · #7 07-21-2005, 11:54 PM

I think that's a solid winrate in what most people say is a tight game. At any rate I think moving up, or trying out 6 max play would be more of a benefit to you than trying to squeek out another .5 bb in the 5/10 fulls.

flair1239 · #8 07-22-2005, 02:11 AM

With good table selection I believe that 2-2.5 BB/100 is very attainable for an excellent player. I would guess an expert type might be able to do better.

That said, although there are usually a few excellent games around and several good ones. I think it might be tough to maintain that rate 8-tabling over a long stretch of hands.

I imagine a bunch of people are probably doing it... but again if they can 8-table 5/10 at 2BB/100 over the period of time needed to "prove" the WR with any degree of confidence.... then they are probably costing themselves money.

But to answer your original question. If somebody tells me they aqre maintaining a long term 1.5BB/100 at 5/10. I would make sure that I read their strategy posts and thought about what they wrote. In other words... good job.

Harv72b · #9 07-22-2005, 02:25 AM

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25k hands so far, vpip 22.. pfr 13..wwsf 40...wtsd 35...w$Sd 48

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I think if you drop the WTSD a couple percentage points and thus raise the W$SD a couple points, that'll go a long way towards adding that extra .5bb/100. Taking a stab in the dark, I'd say this involves letting go of AK/AQ UI a little more often. Standard disclaimers about sample size aside.

OTOH, I don't 4-table, so maybe those numbers are more on par with what's expected when playing that many games at once.

AdamL · #10 07-22-2005, 02:46 AM

This is an interesting thread, because I've been telling a buddy of mine to be happy with where he's at right now and to work on volume of play.

I think you make more money once you are at the point of "squeezing" by just playing more tables and working on hours. But at the same time, getting an extra fraction of a BB can do great things for your game.

So here's my question:

What kind of things would we be improving at this stage? What modifications to your play would be taking place to go from 1.5bb/100 at a fairly solid game (5/10) to 2bb/100...