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4 | 4.30% |
| I have a stop loss, I leave when down $x. |
  
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5 | 5.38% |
| I have a time limit. i decide in advance how long to play. |
  
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10 | 10.75% |
| I leave when I am tired or the game goes bad. |
  
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54 | 58.06% |
| I leave when I am up $x. |
  
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5 | 5.38% |
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5 | 5.38% |
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6 | 6.45% |
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03-11-2005, 01:51 AM
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Easy Preflop Decision aka I\'m smarter than my friend
Foxwoods $20-$40, one of the loose/good weeknight games. A good-playing friend and I couldn't see eye to eye on this one...
UTG limp, MP raise, two cold calls, SB folds. You are BB with 84d. Your action? Please settle this for us - Jags 
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03-11-2005, 06:49 AM
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Re: Easy Preflop Decision aka I\'m smarter than my friend
This is exactly my thinking. Someone who is weak postflop should probably muck, as they could get into trouble with this type of hand. My friend is not, so I thought it was a call.
- Jags
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03-12-2005, 12:35 AM
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Re: Easy Preflop Decision aka I\'m smarter than my friend
I say easy call, but I like to play junk. (I play in the game semi-regularly).
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03-12-2005, 12:56 AM
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Re: Easy Preflop Decision aka I\'m smarter than my friend
"UTG limp, MP raise, two cold calls, SB folds. You are BB with 84d. Your action?"
There's four ways to start a hand. With a good hand and good position, or a good hand and bad position, or a bad hand and good position, or a bad hand and bad position. I'm willing to play the first three, but that's it. Tommy
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03-12-2005, 02:07 AM
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Re: Easy Preflop Decision aka I\'m smarter than my friend
poker tracker says im making money by making this call (by making money i mean, losing less because im in the big blind). 100k hands sample size at 15-30 on party.
im including other low suited cards. i.e 8-5 9-4 thus i call.
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03-12-2005, 03:44 AM
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Re: Easy Preflop Decision aka I\'m smarter than my friend
I'm not surprised to hear this out of you, good sir. But I do have a question: what odds do you have to be getting to play a hand like this? For me, 9.5:1 is enough. Would you play getting 11:1, 13:1, 15:1?
- Jags
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03-12-2005, 09:23 AM
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Re: Easy Preflop Decision aka I\'m smarter than my friend
I'm not surprised to hear this out of you, good sir. But I do have a question: what odds do you have to be getting to play a hand like this? For me, 9.5:1 is enough. Would you play getting 11:1, 13:1, 15:1?
----------- Those numbers have no meaning to me in this context and here's why. If someone offers me a wager that includes odds, such as a horse bet or a football game or a dice roll, I can look at the odds, and look at the thing being wagered on, and decide if I think I should take the bet or not, and if I take the bet, then the wagered-on event happens, and the winner is determined, and money changes hands, and it's over. In my mind, the concept of "taking odds" means that if someone offers me 9.5:1 on something, and I accept, and I wager one unit, then only one of two things can possible happen. I either lose one unit, or I get 9.5 units. There is no in between. That's the only way I know to use or even think about odds and wagering. There's an offer. There's an acceptance. There's an event. There's a settle up. At limit hold'em, prelop, there is no event being wagered on. There is no such thing as "odds" in the traditional bookmaker way of seeing the world. The phrase "preflop calling odds" means the same to me as "marshmallow odds." Nothing. Tommy
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