$1,000 1 table freezeout. What do you do here???

Double Down · #1 12-06-2005, 06:55 PM

"No offense, but you are insane doubledown. If all of the things you said about the opponent are 100% true, then you fold because you know what he does every hand and CAN get a better situation. BUT it is unlikely that all of this is always true, and I think you are exageratting your read. You also came here already having your mind made up about what was right and what was wrong, so there was really no point to posting because all you wanted was people who would agree with you. If you can really pick up a read this strong than you probably win every heads up you play. None the less, I think you exagerated a lot and don't really know your opponent that well. "

I appreciate the criticism.You're right, of course my read isn't as accurate as I'm making it out to be. but I would have to say that of all of the posts that people have made for this thread, almost no one has actually said what they thought they would do. it's just been a bunch of criticisms on my thought process. Keep in mind, I pushed, and the only reason why i am posting is because 2 people who I respect greatly told me that that was a horrible play. So I'm trying to figure out what would be better. Alex, what would you do?

#2 12-06-2005, 06:58 PM

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"No offense, but you are insane doubledown. If all of the things you said about the opponent are 100% true, then you fold because you know what he does every hand and CAN get a better situation. BUT it is unlikely that all of this is always true, and I think you are exageratting your read. You also came here already having your mind made up about what was right and what was wrong, so there was really no point to posting because all you wanted was people who would agree with you. If you can really pick up a read this strong than you probably win every heads up you play. None the less, I think you exagerated a lot and don't really know your opponent that well. "

I appreciate the criticism.You're right, of course my read isn't as accurate as I'm making it out to be. but I would have to say that of all of the posts that people have made for this thread, almost no one has actually said what they thought they would do. it's just been a bunch of criticisms on my thought process. Keep in mind, I pushed, and the only reason why i am posting is because 2 people who I respect greatly told me that that was a horrible play. So I'm trying to figure out what would be better. Alex, what would you do?

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We all said you should bet t1500 because you told us that that's the right play.

Double Down · #3 12-06-2005, 07:26 PM

"We all said you should bet t1500 because you told us that that's the right play"

I never said this. I didn't bet 1500, I pushed.

#4 12-06-2005, 07:27 PM

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"We all said you should bet t1500 because you told us that that's the right play"

I never said this. I didn't bet 1500, I pushed.

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You said this when you told us that you're a favorite against his range and betting 1500 gets all your money in.

EnderW27 · #5 12-06-2005, 07:22 PM

Well you've given us two situations:

1) You bet 1500 and he goes all in with any two. Clearly if this is the case then the best play is to bet 1500 and call his all in. It's absolutely the best way to win this tournament.

2) You bet 1500 and he goes all in with two cards better than 50% to beat you. This is WILDLY different from situation one and yet the answer could still be the same. Let's say he's a 60% favorite on his push. You have the pot odds to call and your tournament isn't on the line for calling his all in. So if you're willing to gamble a bit, the optimal play is to STILL bet 1500 knowing he'll go in and then to call him.

But what you did is option 3: go all in to begin with. Now, you ask on here why some "respected 2+2ers" thought this was a horrible play. Here's a question for you: what hands will he call you with? Answer that question honestly and you'll see why going all-in isn't the right move.