88

[Phil Van Sexton]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (4 handed) converter

BB (t475)
Hero (t1535)
Button (t1910)
SB (t6080)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

No real reads. I had stolen the blinds on the previous hand.

This is a 109.

[treeofwisdom7]

callllllllllllllllll~~~~~~~~~~~~ and hope someone else calls with you

ok i might get [censored] for saying that. but i would call/fold cuz BB is gonna push and more people in the pot better. if you push then BB will fold and watch you take a coin flip..

what did you do?

[sofere]

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i would call/fold

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Juh??? How very charitable of you.

[treeofwisdom7]

i would never fold to the BB but i would to a bigger stack. my call is to get more callers.

[zaphod]

I would push. If you call or minraises, bigstack will be there betting at you on the flop.

This might be my last chance to get 4'th place.

[shejk]

It feels like a push. If he folds his sb to keep the ss alive, you're in trouble. This way ss cant get away, and the big stack will give you credit for a good hand.

[beeyjay]

the button is pushing unless he is a total moron. If he has that many chips I doubt hes a moron in the too passive way so I'd fold here. He's gonna push over the top of you and the BB is gonna fold and youre gonna have to fold. Better off folding and forcing the BB to try to get lucky in the BB to beat you.

[Scuba Chuck]

What are your thoughts for folding this hand? You don't care for the overlay, or are you concerned about the other callers?

It would seem that a call is minimally in order.

[treeofwisdom7]

"call"

[jcm4ccc]

Calling is the worst option. Here's what happens: the SB puts you all-in (you've shown weakness, after all), the BB folds (conceivably, since he now realizes that you may go out in 4th place), and now you either fold for a loss of 300 chips, or you are in a coin flip with the SB (who has a good chance of having 2 overcards to your 88).

Look at what the chip count will be if you call, the SB pushes, the BB folds, and you fold. SB has 6980 chips, the BB has 175 chips, you have 1235 chips, and the button has 1910 chips. If the SB wasn't bullying before, he may start now.

Folding is second worst. The button won't push unless he has a real hand. He is comfortably in second place, he is pushing through the big stack, and he doesn't want to double up the BB unnecessarily (if he pushes and the BB calls and doubles up, then he is down to 1435 chips and the BB has 1100 chips). That leaves it up to the SB to take out the BB. The SB may fold if he wants to bully the table. If not, then you have to figure the chances are 50/50 that he will double up the BB. So there's a decent chance that the BB will survive this round if you fold, with the blinds hitting you next.

Close your eyes and push.