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Old 11-11-2005, 11:31 PM
ilya ilya is offline
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Default Re: Folding KK Before The Flop

Good fold, even if you have pot odds against AA, you can't make money in 5-3-2 payout-structure SnGs by taking gambles which result in you being knocked out on the first hand 80% of the time. It is just impossible.
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Old 11-12-2005, 12:24 AM
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Where the hell do you find tables like this??

And yes, I fold.

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Hi. I wish I could find another one...or two...or three...or...
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Old 11-12-2005, 12:29 AM
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Good fold, even if you have pot odds against AA, you can't make money in 5-3-2 payout-structure SnGs by taking gambles which result in you being knocked out on the first hand 80% of the time. It is just impossible.

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Hi. Sooo true! Have a nice night!
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Old 11-12-2005, 01:06 AM
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As it turned out, there was a K in the flop, and a call would have won the pot. I did finish 2nd in that one, though, sooo I was okay with that. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Old 11-12-2005, 03:51 AM
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Mmmhmm. And...Mmmm. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Have a great weekend! -Sharon.
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Old 11-12-2005, 04:46 AM
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This is a semantic point, but---- I definitely don't use the word "favorite" in the same manner as you.

For example... in a situation where I have a 45% chance to win vs. 1 opponent who has a 55% chance to win, I would never say that I'm a 45% favorite.... I would say that I'm a 10% underdog (dog, actually)... or that, my opponent was a 10% favorite.

I believe--- and someone correct me if I'm wrong-- that the word favorite is, and should be, reserved for speaking about the person who is actually ahead in the hand (the one who is in fact the "favorite").

It's kind of a silly point, but I've been drinking, and after reading your post I had to run the numbers myself-- even though I knew there was no way that the OP could have been a 20% favorite...

And now I've made a stupid post about it....
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Old 11-12-2005, 06:07 AM
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Default Re: Folding KK Before The Flop

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Good fold, even if you have pot odds against AA, you can't make money in 5-3-2 payout-structure SnGs by taking gambles which result in you being knocked out on the first hand 80% of the time. It is just impossible.

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Bingo. I have been saying this as long as I can remember.
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Old 11-12-2005, 06:17 AM
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Default Re: Folding KK Before The Flop

If you're interested in maximizing +$EV situations, ROI, and $/hr, I think you make this call.

If you are timid about the buyin, and want this game to LAST, then fold.
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Old 11-12-2005, 06:51 AM
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Default Re: Folding KK Before The Flop

unless I know one of the players is you, i'm calling, everytime. If it's donks or unknown players you can't put them on AA accurately enough to fold this.

Have YOU had any recent head trauma ilya? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 11-12-2005, 06:55 AM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Have YOU had any recent head trauma ilya? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Thank you. Was wondering the same.
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