Scuba_Curtains: AK hand 2

Scuba Chuck · #1 12-19-2005, 04:54 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

CO (t1065) Paschendale Ac Ts 
Button (t925)
Hero (t925)
BB (t590)
UTG (t1995)
UTG+1 (t993)
MP1 (t1597)
MP2 (t1000)
MP3 (t910)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
5 folds, CO raises to t60, 1 fold, Hero raises to t260, 1 fold, CO calls t200.

bluefeet · #2 12-19-2005, 05:05 PM

on the button, i might pop it 175-200ish. from SB, something a little more terminating maybe? a little safer proposition finding us HU to this point. L1/L2, i'm sleeping on this one just as often (almost always multi-way). it looks a bit excessive...maybe hero has the goods on CO.

#3 12-19-2005, 05:10 PM

Maybe he's trying to end it now since he's going to be OOP for the rest of the hand. If villain does call, any continuation/probe betting from him will be more expensive because the pot is bigger.

adanthar · #4 12-19-2005, 05:23 PM

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Maybe he's trying to end it now since he's going to be OOP for the rest of the hand.

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That would be why.

curtains · #5 12-19-2005, 05:29 PM

Yea I dont mess around from the blinds. My raises are almost always of the extra large variety, and theres no way I can just allow the cutoff to raise and not fight back against him aggressively. If the raise came from an earlier position, I'd probably just fold.

Irieguy · #6 12-19-2005, 05:55 PM

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Yea I dont mess around from the blinds. My raises are almost always of the extra large variety, and theres no way I can just allow the cutoff to raise and not fight back against him aggressively. If the raise came from an earlier position, I'd probably just fold.

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You're folding AKs to a single early position raise in a SNG? I hope you are in the mood to explain that one, because it will at least be an entertaining read.

I mean, somebody makes it 90 chips and it's folded to you in the SB with AKs... there's 135 in the pot, it's 75 more to you (assuming level 2) and you think you should fold? I can't say I understand.

Irieguy

#7 12-19-2005, 06:02 PM

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... and theres no way I can just allow the cutoff to raise and not fight back against him aggressively...

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Why not? You're risking 260 chips to win 90 and if you're called you're sure not happy playing this big a pot OOP with AK.

I don't see why calling isn't a valid option. Yes you're OOP but AK in a smallish pot isn't that hard to play. If you even do something as simple as check-folding when you miss and check-raising allin when you hit I think you'd do just fine. I think if you never call here you are missing an opportunity to add some deception to you game and you will be less likely to stack someone with a worse ace, QQ, JJ, TT ...

jedinite · #8 12-19-2005, 06:31 PM

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You're folding AKs to a single early position raise in a SNG? I hope you are in the mood to explain that one, because it will at least be an entertaining read.

I mean, somebody makes it 90 chips and it's folded to you in the SB with AKs... there's 135 in the pot, it's 75 more to you (assuming level 2) and you think you should fold? I can't say I understand.

Irieguy

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Started to post the same, luckily refreshed to see Irie had beaten me to it.

Likewise, would love to see an explanation. I'm betting Curtains misread the HH and thought hero was facing the raise to 260, not doing the raising...

#9 12-19-2005, 06:37 PM

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I'm betting Curtains misread the HH and thought hero was facing the raise to 260, not doing the raising...

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If I understand this project correctly, Curtains was hero.

curtains · #10 12-19-2005, 06:56 PM

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Yea I dont mess around from the blinds. My raises are almost always of the extra large variety, and theres no way I can just allow the cutoff to raise and not fight back against him aggressively. If the raise came from an earlier position, I'd probably just fold.

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You're folding AKs to a single early position raise in a SNG? I hope you are in the mood to explain that one, because it will at least be an entertaining read.

I mean, somebody makes it 90 chips and it's folded to you in the SB with AKs... there's 135 in the pot, it's 75 more to you (assuming level 2) and you think you should fold? I can't say I understand.

Irieguy

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I fold a lot when the raise is 4x the BB or more usually. I don't fold to a 90 chip raise most of the time (although against some tight opponents who basically raise just AA-JJ and AK from EP, I will fold everytime from the SB for a 90 chip raise).

Of course there are no absolutes and it all depends on the situation, but trust me Ive folded AK many times from the blind to a very tight EP raiser, and I don't regret it one bit.

I hope this was entertaining for you.