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Old 12-30-2005, 10:42 AM
Kristian Kristian is offline
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Anyone disagree?


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It seems so, but they are wrong.
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Old 12-30-2005, 10:51 AM
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i probably either call or push here, depending on my read of the raiser

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I've played against the raiser many times. He is one of the worst players on Party, a 90% VPIP'er that never folds. The OP would know this too so AQ is an easy push.
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Old 12-30-2005, 10:58 AM
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Allin, thank you.
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Old 12-30-2005, 12:16 PM
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I guess the most interesting part of this post is the part where the OP makes it seem like he's getting called for sure and taking a race/gamble for 3rd or 1st.

I'm pretty sure the guy will almost always fold. You're FE is QUITE high.
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Old 12-30-2005, 12:24 PM
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You should definitely move-in here. It's nothing like the KJo hand the other day because, well, AQs is like absolutely massive compared to KJo.
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Old 12-30-2005, 12:25 PM
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Oh by the way FE doesn't actually matter here, even if he folded the bottom 2/3rds he was raising with, you would still want his range to be no wider than top 21%, which is exactly the same as if he called every time you pushed! But that's more than wide enough ITM.
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Old 12-30-2005, 06:31 PM
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Here is the outcome. At least the read was right.

badbadmonk calls [2830].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, 5h, 7s ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ks ]
** Dealing River ** [ 9c ]
badbadmonk shows [ As, Tc ] a pair of tens.
PazzMan shows [ Ac, Qc ] high card ace.
badbadmonk wins 6560 chips from the main pot with a pair of tens.
PazzMan finished in third place and won $40.
PazzMan has left the table.
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Old 12-30-2005, 07:52 PM
ilya ilya is offline
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I'm embarassed to admit that I thought this was close. But then I did the math and...wow. It's not remotely close. In fact it looks like pushing as low as A8o is reasonable.
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