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Old 12-27-2005, 03:58 AM
rnmike17602 rnmike17602 is offline
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Default Laydown or not?

Hand one: Should I stop when 3-bet on the flop? Is the calldown good?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (7 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (9.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB


Hand two: Similar theme, but I throw it away. Did I do it right? Bonus points if you guess the button's hand right!


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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (24 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP2 folds, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, CO calls.

Turn: (20.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero folds...

For purposes of guessing Button's hand the action continues... CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, SB calls, CO calls.

River: (33.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, CO calls.

Final Pot: 39 BB
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Old 12-27-2005, 04:55 AM
moose47 moose47 is offline
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Default Re: Laydown or not?

I would play both the same way. If SB is really passive in hand one you could slow down after the 3-bet but since this is .05/.1 I say cap it.

I will guess button has 72o in hand 2.
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Old 12-27-2005, 06:44 AM
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Default Re: Laydown or not?

Hand 1
You can probably just call down after the flop 3bet. You've shown more than enough aggression, but he's still coming.

Hand 2
You lost one more BB than you needed to by not folding the turn to SB's donk.
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Old 12-27-2005, 08:58 AM
TredWel TredWel is offline
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Default Re: Laydown or not?

Hand 1 - I wouldn't cap the turn. Bet-3bet lines often mean they can beat TPTK. If they can't, I don't want to discourage them into betting into me. Rest looks fine.

Hand 2 - I'd probably play it the same way, I'd like to say I'd fold to SB's bet from nowhere, but a 21 BB pot is hard to fold for one more bet. Absent any reads, I'll give button credit for QsQx, though that's probably too logical of a hand for him to have.
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Old 12-27-2005, 04:13 PM
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Default Button Has...

For those interested in the bonus points on hand 2: Button has ... what else? 64o. The next hand ate his remaining stack with similar action.

(SB donked the turn with K9s [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], and CO called down with A8o.)
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Old 12-27-2005, 04:18 PM
GTSamIAm GTSamIAm is offline
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Default Re: Laydown or not?

grunch...

Hand 1: Since you capped the flop and he bet the turn, he probably has you beat, but you have good odds to beat a weak two pair. I wouldn't have capped the flop, but I would have called down. If he's especially tight and/or passive, I'm likely folding the turn.

Hand 2: Fold the turn, SB betting is scary and button will likely raise him. You're not getting good odds and one of the kings you'll hit for a set will put a four-flush on the board. Button has either QQ or AA, I can't say. I'm tempted to say he has QQ with the bitch spade.
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