Got called a moron, but who is the real moron?

[beernutz]

I don't see a problem with the play-you were a favorite when the money went in. FWIW, the preflop equities in this hand are kind of interesting too and not what I would have expected:

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>Results:Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 376992 enumerated boards
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
9s Kd 9d 8d 101117 144730 231214 1048 0 0 0 0.327
As 4s 7d 2d 38794 65009 307705 4278 70461 26850 81790 0.262
2s 8c 6c Ah 37152 70390 295594 11008 30296 70055 82948 0.236
6s Jh 8h 7h 39219 84833 283977 8182 2059 162193 2142 0.174

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Earlier today in a thread about general PLO8 strategy, I posted 2 hands informally where I pushed hard first in and obvious even money worst case hand and once as a slight favorite. In both hands I got called a total fish and my brokeness was predicted to be forthcoming. Now I bring you the icing on the cake. A hand where I got told by virtually every player on the table what a sucker I was on how I played this hand. View the full action here
Now that flop play may look terribly questionable, but lets explore the numbers: With all 4 hands as they were (i.e. in the main pot)

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1320862
pokenum -o8 9s 8d kd 9d - 7d 4s as 2d - 8c 6c ah 2s - 8h jh 6s 7h -- 9c 6d 5s
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 528 enumerated boards containing 5s 9c 6d
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
9s Kd 9d 8d 98 190 306 32 0 0 0 0.283
As 4s 7d 2d 6 21 507 0 110 0 247 0.247
2s 8c 6c Ah 6 38 458 32 0 110 247 0.169
6s Jh 8h 7h 61 247 249 32 0 297 0 0.302

I wasn't the favorite, but I had more than 0.25 equity in the pot to make calling the push likely +EV. How about the large side pot?

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1320865
pokenum -o8 9s 8d kd 9d - 7d 4s as 2d - 8c 6c ah 2s -- 9c 6d 5s
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 666 enumerated boards containing 5s 9c 6d
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
9s Kd 9d 8d 197 417 179 70 0 0 0 0.487
As 4s 7d 2d 27 140 526 0 126 0 330 0.328
2s 8c 6c Ah 7 39 557 70 0 126 330 0.185

Thats right folks I am getting almost half the equity in a 3 way push. I also feel that there is a good chance the other 2 players showing weakness will fold often to this huge raise. Still, this move could be dangerous if one of the other big stacks has the straight as well, so lets switch the hands of the shortstack and one of the larger stacks and look at my equity:

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1320874
pokenum -o8 9s 8d kd 9d - 7d 4s as 2d - 8h jh 6s 7h -- 9c 6d 5s
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 666 enumerated boards containing 5s 9c 6d
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
9s Kd 9d 8d 116 247 375 44 0 0 0 0.289
As 4s 7d 2d 28 28 638 0 476 0 0 0.383
6s Jh 8h 7h 68 347 275 44 0 390 0 0.328

Now I am taking the worst of it in the large side pot, but I would chalk this up to advertising. Plus, given the action I was fairly sure shorty had the nut straight and that the other big stacks were on drawing hands that likely were tangled up. Also, with them coming in from early position I felt as if the nut straight with 78 was somewhat less likely while short stack had been playing everything all night. At any rate, I got my money all in with an overwhelming edge and got called a moron. Do I play it this way every time? No, with fewer people in the pot I will often have to fold the flop, but here is a spot where huge action without the nuts will probably get me action on later hands even though I am getting in with solid value.

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