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Old 05-01-2005, 11:52 PM
Luv2DriveTT Luv2DriveTT is offline
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Default Yea or Nay? Trying something new - not covered in SSII

I am trying marginally amazing starting hands now, provided they don't get me in trouble, and I am in position.

1) Good starting choice?
2) Excellent fold?

Seabrook ($.50/$1 Triple Draw 2-7)

Hero: Ts 5h 3s 7h 8d


First Round:

xxxxx folds. yyyyyy raises to $1.
lucas9000 re-raises to $1.50. Hero calls.
xxxxx folds. xxxxx folds. yyyyy calls.


yyyyyy takes 2 cards. lucas9000 stands pat.
Hero takes 1 card.

Hero: 5h 3s 7h 8d Qc
MysteriAce: -- -- -- -- --
lucas9000: -- -- -- -- --

Second Round:

yyyyy checks. lucas9000 bets $.50. Hero
folds-------------------
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Old 05-01-2005, 11:55 PM
lucas9000 lucas9000 is offline
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Default Re: Yea or Nay? Trying something new - not covered in SSII

i think i had a pat 96 on this hand, fwiw.
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Old 05-01-2005, 11:57 PM
lucas9000 lucas9000 is offline
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Default Re: Yea or Nay? Trying something new - not covered in SSII

let's assume you could put me on a pat 9 at worst here. would a call be correct for you to draw to your 8 in that case? or would that be too risky since your 8 is rough and i could of course have better than a 9?
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Old 05-02-2005, 12:14 AM
Luv2DriveTT Luv2DriveTT is offline
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I actually assumed you had a pat 9, or rough 8. 75% of the time thats what an opponent would have in this situation. I think (and I could be wrong) that it would not be correct to draw to the 8. I cannot determine the odds of triple draw, so all I have is a logical deduction without the theory to back it up. Interesting TOP question for sure!

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Old 05-02-2005, 01:38 AM
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Default Re: Yea or Nay? Trying something new - not covered in SSII

Looks like Lucas is on a rough 8, maybe 9. In position I would play this the same way. You're drawing a little rough and Player Y could still be involved (and if I remember right mysteriace wasnt awful) which makes a call look less attractive.
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Old 05-02-2005, 04:28 AM
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Default Re: Yea or Nay? Trying something new - not covered in SSII

I don't like it for three bets.
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Old 05-02-2005, 09:40 AM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Default Re: Yea or Nay? Trying something new - not covered in SSII

i
hate
your
predraw
call.

i
fold
after
you brick
too
.
lucas
has
at
least
a
nine
or eight
and
theres
a
good
chance
yyyyy
is
drawing
smoother
than
you
anyways
.
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Old 05-02-2005, 08:29 PM
Luv2DriveTT Luv2DriveTT is offline
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Default Re: Yea or Nay? Trying something new - not covered in SSII

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I don't like it for three bets.

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For 2? What if I was 3rd to act against 2 limper's, would you raise? I think I've been too tight pre-flop in some situations, there are many combinations I am leaving out hence why I said what the hell.. lets try something stupid.

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Old 05-02-2005, 09:28 PM
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I think I've been too tight pre-flop in some situations, there are many combinations I am leaving out hence why I said what the hell.. lets try something stupid.

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i'm curious as to what hands you think you are leaving out, and thus being too tight.
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Old 05-02-2005, 09:29 PM
timprov timprov is offline
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Default Re: Yea or Nay? Trying something new - not covered in SSII

There are some players I'd play it against for two, or maybe even reraise -- I don't like this hand in a multiway pot at all, but since I'm likely at least a card ahead, and in position, there's a decent chance it doesn't get shown down headsup. I'm generally folding this if two people have shown interest in their hands. In the right game conditions I might overlimp and draw two against two EP limpers.

I've been spending a decent amount of my time lagging up the .25/.50, trying to determine what hands I should be adding, and which ones are stupid. One thing I've determined is that entering multiway pots without a deuce is trouble.
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