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Old 12-21-2005, 03:14 PM
xJMPx xJMPx is offline
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Default ($22): Late stages SB play.

I think one of the weakest parts of my game right now is my small blind play late stages. I struggle with pushing a large range even when I think it is a push any two situation. Here’s an example.

PartyPoker - NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Tournament | Level: 6 - 5 players (Converter: PGC)

Chip Counts:
Button: 1460 Chips
<font color="red">Hero: 1585 Chips</font>
BB: 1223 Chips
UTG: 2215 Chips
CO: 1517 Chips

Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Blinds are 100/200

PreFlop
<font color="blue">UTG folds</font>, <font color="blue">CO folds</font>, <font color="blue">Button folds</font>, <font color="blue">Hero ????</font>

PartyPoker - NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Tournament | Level: 4 - 4 players (Converter: PGC)

Chip Counts:
Button: 2990 Chips
<font color="red">Hero: 880 Chips</font>
BB: 990 Chips
UTG: 2200 Chips
CO: 940 Chips

Hero is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Blinds are 50/100

PreFlop
<font color="blue">UTG folds</font>, <font color="blue">CO folds</font>, <font color="blue">Button folds</font>, <font color="blue">Hero ????</font>
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:21 PM
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: ($22): Late stages SB play.

Use ICM.
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: ($22): Late stages SB play.

At a 22 I fold this, BB's calling range is almost certainly likely to contain hands like QJ or even T9s...you don't want to get called here obviously, and it happens too often.

btw this is what SNGPT is for.
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: ($22): Late stages SB play.

I've added another hand to the OP.
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: ($22): Late stages SB play.

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At a 22 I fold this, BB's calling range is almost certainly likely to contain hands like QJ or even T9s...you don't want to get called here obviously, and it happens too often.

btw this is what SNGPT is for.

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Old 12-21-2005, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: ($22): Late stages SB play.

SNGPT says push unless you give villain a huge range.
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: ($22): Late stages SB play.

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btw this is what SNGPT is for.

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Yep, and I'm using it. But, I'm posting hands that are close for people's opinion and thought processes.
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: ($22): Late stages SB play.

I think these are both folds as well, (im at work so it's intuitive, not ICM). You have enough BB left to wait for a better hand. Like pergesu said, you don't want a call. If the blinds were going up next hand, I might reconsider though.
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: ($22): Late stages SB play.

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SNGPT says push unless you give villain a huge range.

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What's "huge"? And what are the exact $EV % differences, given a few different call ranges? I'm laying down comfortably in bed and don't want to get up to my PC to check this out.

Anyway like I said, if BB's range includes hands like QJ (which at a 22 is basically guaranteed) then it's probably -EV, and at the very best only slightly +EV. Hero's got 7.5 BB, it's not like he's desperate here by any means.
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